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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also you DON'T FUCKING WANT GRAPHITE DUST FLOATING AROUND IN ZERO G

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Why not? I'm not well versed in the theme. Would it be flammable?

edit: just saw another post mentioning this: lack of gravity, enter floating in the electronic, causing short circuits as main risk.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also your body doesn't do a good job of breaking it down either. Id imagine that in your lungs would suck.

I have a piece of graphite in my leg from 7th grade still. I'm 33.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have a graphite stain in my palm from 8th grade and I'm 40.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Left handed or did you get stabbed too?

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Got stabbed by a friend at lunch.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The theme is to pretend recently-learned information was available half a century ago, and also to ignorantly inflate its importance. It turns out exposure to graphite dust in large concentrations can cause respiratory problems (like any kind of dust), but the amount of graphite emitted into the air by pencil use is insignificant, even in zero gravity.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

For decades these pens have been brought up to criticize wasteful spending, inaccurately. Fisher Price didn't even develop the pens for NASA, they were just a sales gimmick, and NASA didn't spend thousands of dollars each on them, they just bought them. Space flight was getting a lot of publicity back then, so products that related themselves to space were popular, like Space Food Sticks - tootsie-rollish snacks supposedly full of protein and nourishment. To me they tasted too much like raw flour. "Energy" of course was a euphemism for sugar.

[–] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

“Do me a personal favour. Take the pen!”

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 532 points 1 week ago (24 children)

The reason not to use pencils in Space wasn't that Pencil are inflamable, the main reason was the graphit dust produced by Pencils, which because of the lack of gravity, enter floating in the electronic, causing short circuits as main risk.

[–] ninja@lemmy.world 269 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 50 points 1 week ago (11 children)

That is something I found weird, too. Inflammable and flammable mean the same thing!

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[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 188 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Besides that, NASA wasn't the one that funded the research behind the pen, they bought the completed pens. The expenses for the research were funded by Fisher

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 93 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Plus, inhaling graphite dust since it doesn't fall doesn't sound fun.

[–] Tiptopit@feddit.org 69 points 1 week ago

Plus, graphite dust and electronics are also not a great combination.

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[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NASA used crayons before those space pens, and iirc the pens were available for a while before they tried them

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (14 children)

also, fucking pencil shavings?

pencil shavings contain graphite (great for getting into shit and shorting shit out) and thin paper (think, kindling)

did the russians gnaw the fucking things sharp? no? idiots...

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 week ago (21 children)

This is inaccurate. Graphite is not flammable. It forms small particles that, mixed with air, could combust in a dust explosion, just like flour.

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Apollo 1 resulted in a lot of improvements regarding fire safety.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’ve owned a fair few Fisher Space Pens throughout the years. It’s an interesting bit of space memorabilia that’s functional and affordable. It’s an impressive bit of engineering.

As a space nerd, I love the pen. As a pen guy…. There’s better options. The cartridge just doesn’t write as smooth as I like, nor is it a really bold, saturated line. For daily actual writing use, I use a Lamy Safari rollerball or a Pilot B2P.

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[–] Carl@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Plus pressurized pens are useful in more than just zero-g. I used to use one along with a waterproof note pad for note taking in the field. They're also not prohibitively expensive, although the ones from Fisher itself carry a pretty huge brand name markup, other companies sell them for a couple bucks each.

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