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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

This stuff is great to try in Germany 😁

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Work force councils gonna bring the hammer?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

You gon learn

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

83 percent of respondents often felt overworked and that 59 percent regularly experienced physical discomfort due to their work

We'd probably get the same results at my job. Lot's of physical labor, and yes, it can be uncomfortable.

high worker absenteeism, which reached a whopping 17 percent last summer

JESUS! Not like that!

I'm really hoping the newer exo skeletons can help with some of that physical labor pain and discomfort. Things like if you lift your arm to screw something above you, once you reach up it automatically holds your weight for you while you work, and seamlessly releases when you bring your arm down.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Well Germany needs to do something? Are they scared of musk?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 210 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I read a German article a few days ago. They definitely threatened to withhold wages. They also pressured workers into disclosing their health info. Via email.

The Unions are (orders of magnitude) more active against Tesla than against comparable employers.

Oh and of course Tesla does not like people being in unions in the first place.

It's the same playbook, but in a different country that actually has worker protection.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It is not only the unions, it is the law in Germany. Americans have a hard time understanding the immense power of the law protecting employees here. Withholding sick payment is about as illegal as demanding health info. Both will be easy wins in court. Tesla will find themselves in a place of legal hurt.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I would always pick the law over the union. I once had an employer try to fuck me over the pettiest thing. they had incorrectly, probably deliberately, terminated my contract so that I was ineligible for unemployment benefits. They don't pay that benefit and it takes them literally 5 minutes to fix it, so it pretty much would cost them nothing to make that change. But it meant the world for me because that would've been the only way for me to put food on the table. I argued with them for days and the entire time they're gaslighting me with "You don't know what you're talking about, we did everything right. Nothing is wrong." Eventually I got fed up. I told them "I don't need to deal with this shit. Give me the official reason why you can't change the reason for me termination. I'll forward it to the labour office and you can deal with them." literally the next thing they said was "fine, we'll fix it." and 5 minutes later it was done.

I imagine a union would've also helped me in that scenario, but I enjoyed the safety of knowing I could stick the law in their face and tell them to eat shit. My opinion is that worker unions are great but labor laws are even better.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is not only the unions, it is the law in Germany.

I should have made that clearer!

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 5 days ago

Let's be serious two seconds, what is not clear is how any country law could allow a employer to prevent an employee from getting the money that is their's.

[–] mysqlpimp@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Tesla may not be around long enough to pay anyone anything.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like a suit for the strong German unions.

[–] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 49 points 1 week ago (25 children)

I was about to say, this seems pretty slam dunk for them.

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[–] b3an@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hope they rip Elon a big fat fancy new hole in his net wealth. Alas, someone, cue me the tiniest of violins 🎻

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 6 days ago

tiniest violin

Pretty sure that's the tiniest.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Germany needs to ban Tesla from their country as a whole. Confiscate the assets and continue to pay the workers until they're relocated or another company buys the factories.

[–] XenGi@feddit.org 93 points 1 week ago

This is highly illegal and should be quite easy to win in court.

[–] alberto1stone@feddit.org 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looking at the financial figures of Tesla, withholding wages could be a way of maintaining liquidity. In some cases, this is the harbinger of insolvency. Let's see what happens next.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 12 points 6 days ago

What happens next is that Tesla will be fucked by a German court.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m starting to think the Tesla CEO isn’t a good person.

[–] chaosCruiser 9 points 1 week ago

You don’t say…

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Germany should immediately seize all of Tesla's accounts there and pay the workers on sick leave out of those funds.

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we somehow do that I will be more upset, considering how long it takes to seize the property of Russian oligarchs here.

No, German way is to take this to court.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Fair enough.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Mmmm I dunno, this might damage their otherwise spotless reputation.

[–] hybridep@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

High Levels Of Worker Callout at the end of March? Must be the anti-capitalist woke mind virus /s

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