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I feel that “outgroup dumb” is shitposting but it’s from a real poll.

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/5057-understanding-how-marginal-taxes-work-its-all-part

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (12 children)

For someone outside the American tax system, can anyone put the difference in approximate numbers?

[–] quitthebiz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

In exact numbers, 5 cents.

[–] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That one dollar in the 33% bracket has .33 in taxes instead of .28. So their obligation goes up .05 per every dollar in the 33% tax bracket.

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[–] Kuranashi@lemmy.world 169 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you ever wanted proof that a population that doesn't understand math allows the billionaires to take advantage of them here it is. This is why education systems are under attack, because if you understood how taxes work you'd more likely support higher tax rates for the rich.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

If you ever wanted proof […] here it is.

Yes! Well yes but also no but only because…

~~@General_Effort@lemmy.world I always do the web search when OP didn’t happen to think about linking a source but this is egregious~~ DANGIT IT’S A SHITPOST I AM SO SORRY

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think this is at least partially the result of intentional propaganda. It benefits the elite greatly if a lot of Americans are screaming against higher top tax rates due to this faulty logic. There are also a lot of anecdotes of people not accepting higher paying job offers or promotions within their company, which also benefits the business owners.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Tell me you don’t know how income taxes work without telling me you don’t know how income taxes work.

My question is who does their taxes then?

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I used to be a supervisor at a psych hospital and had to regularly explain this to staff who were refusing overtime. They wanted to do it, sometimes desperately so because they needed the money, but they were utterly convinced that once they crossed 40 or 45k or whatever they would be taxed higher and make it all pointless. I felt like some just didn’t want to do ot, which was fine, but some legit keep meticulous records of their earnings to ensure they wouldn’t go over the line. I swore to them it didn’t work this way but they never believed me

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Should print out a poster infographic explaining progressive taxation and put it up on the wall in the break room

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Yeah I am pretty sure they wouldn't understand this either

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

This infographic is kinda bad and would not convince someone who doesn't know how it works at all

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[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Seen the same bullshit when I worked retail. Nothing will convince them.

It's easier to trick someone than it is to convince them they're wrong.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks, Lemmy, now I’m “that Dad”. After reading this, I went to dinner with my two teens and one of their girlfriends, so of course I had to bring this up. All three have started working after school and will need to file their taxes this year so they need to know.

But holy crap is that a seriously uncool conversation

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (11 children)

try telling this to people who think government agencies pay taxes

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 151 points 2 days ago (7 children)

To be clear for those unaware, you pay the lower bracket rates for the amounts earned in that bracket and the higher bracket rates for the amounts earned above that bracket.

https://www.irs.gov/filing/federal-income-tax-rates-and-brackets

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[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

And they'll also refuse to believe you when you try to explain it to them

[–] PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago

lol i wonder how much that is just guessing. they just coin flipped it

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm more concerned about the third of dems who don't understand this.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 days ago (5 children)

it's in the shitpost community and there's no sources cited

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