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A survey of 100,000 Germans found that 94% refuse to buy a Tesla, signaling a major crisis for the company.

Tesla’s German sales dropped 70% in early 2025 after a 41% decline in 2024, despite overall EV sales rising.

Analysts attribute the slump to CEO Elon Musk’s far-right political endorsements, including promoting the AfD party and making Nazi-related gestures. Musk is under European investigation for political meddling.

With Tesla’s reputation plummeting, industry experts predict further losses in Germany’s competitive EV market.

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[–] mercano@lemmy.world 4 points 25 minutes ago

If the Tesla board of directors was being responsible to shareholders, they’d have recognized the damage the public perception of Elon is doing to the company and either have him rein it in or outright remove him. However, Elon’s gotten a number of his cronies onto the board, so I don’t think it’s happening unless the shareholders vote out the current board.

[–] PlausibleDupont@jlai.lu 6 points 4 hours ago

The only way to get your money back is to set your car on fire these days

[–] paintedsunflowers@feddit.nl 8 points 6 hours ago

I hope this is more than just a temporary movement!

[–] Underwire@lemmy.world 68 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

It is already dumb for a German to buy an American car. It is like a French buying an American wine.

[–] ninjakttty@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

As someone from Northern California might not have been the greatest analogy :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)

[–] doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly our car industry slept way too long on electric vehicles and instead doubled down on combustion engines, even by fraudulent practices (e.g. Dieselgate).

Teslas were by far the best EVs for a long time. Nowadays, not so much.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Teslas were by far the best EVs for a long time

Were they though? Almost immediately after he stole the company from its founders/creators quality went down. But maybe there was enough residual quality to last him for a few years.

Anyhow, your point stands. Nowadays there's plenty more to choose from and what then was innovative just isn't anymore.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago

Okay, Elon Musk is a giant asshole, but not so big that it warps reality around it. Musk provided money and became chairman of Tesla in Jan 2004. The first production vehicle rolled out in 2005. All Teslas were produced after Musk joined Tesla. And while it could be argued that he did a hostile takeover of Tesla, usually theft doesn't include piles of cash going to the victim.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I mean, it technically may be true, but that's due to the complete lack of a viable competitor. Teslas are cheap, poorly made death traps. If you use auto pilot your basically being used as an unpaid crash test dummy. If you like being taken advantage of, then a Tesla is for you

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 6 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

There's plenty of really good American wines.

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

But you can buy just as good and better wines cheaper and locally if you live in France.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 13 hours ago

nobody claimed otherwise

[–] muddyuk@lemm.ee 5 points 13 hours ago

There are - sadly I won’t be buying any for at least 4 years and will be buying European.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 71 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

“Nazi-related gestures”

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 42 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

makes nazi salute

"Hitler did nothing wrong"

"Oh, he's not a bad guy, he's misunderstood."

[–] samteria@lemm.ee 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

"He has aspergers"

I swear, this time-line seems right out of a South Park episode.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Bonus points for irony if they actually use "aspergers" given the origin of the term.

[–] samteria@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Assburgers in paradise/Assburgers and it feels so nice...

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Best justification so far: he was just so happy, so in the moment!

🤔 When's the last time you made an "accidental" Heil Hitler just because you were pumped about something?

...and do it twice, just in case the first "accident" wasn't enough.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

I did notsee related gestures 🙄

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

That’s pretty wild considering the rise of AfD support there.

I wonder if Elon’s endorsement was a detriment to their election campaign.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 18 points 14 hours ago

AfD voters don't care about the environment and the climate.

[–] LazyGit@feddit.org 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I mean AfD made it pretty clear they are against Tesla when trying to stop the Tesla plant in Germany.

Not sure how their brains work, maybe they don’t. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

why? Elon supports AfD and I think he's making it pretty clear that he's against Tesla too

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

if he wasn't he wouldn't force them to make a truck that's as disfigured as his body.

[–] fluffy@feddit.org 11 points 15 hours ago

Well, they are afraid of electric vehicles, they want the good old polluting combustion engine.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I wonder if Elon’s endorsement was a detriment to their election campaign.

No, definitely not. But imho it didn't shift the needle upwards either. They've been on the rise for a long time and there was no jump during this election.

But the next election in Europe might look different.

And there's a lot more to be said about American-based social media and far-right populist movements influencing our own flavors of the same for many years now.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 48 points 19 hours ago
[–] Denixen@feddit.nu 6 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Neintyfour percent say no. Doesn't this mean like most of AfD voters also say nein?

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

As I said in the other place this article was posted: the source seems to be an online reader survey from t-online.be. That means the scientific value of this is pretty low. For decent surveys, you need a random sample. In this case, you need to be a visitor of t-online, and you decide for yourself that you want to participate. That's already enough to skew results. Add to that that there's a lot of online activism against Tesla (for obvious reasons), so the poll could have been partly hijacked. Such a low number of people who don't care or haven't heard about Tesla going rogue is not realistic anyway. There's a lot of people who are weird, contrarian or simply avoid all news.

[–] Denixen@feddit.nu 4 points 15 hours ago

Good point. I thought numbers were a bit too extreme.

[–] silver13@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Because they have been fed massive propaganda against EVs for years, they would never buy one anyway.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Vierundneunzig, bitte.

Since they got much more than 6% during the last election, and 82% of all people voted, yes.

[–] Denixen@feddit.nu -1 points 14 hours ago

Fourandneinzig. Entschuldigung für mein schlechtes Deutsch.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago
[–] professionalspooner@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

People should really stop talking about Tesla. Everyone knows what a Tesla is, even people who can't name any other car brand/model.