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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

What the fuck is wrong with this guy? And what's wrong with New York that it keeps electing worthless sacks of shit like him and Gillibrand?

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The pseudo-fascists will always bow before the real fascists. Only one way to get rid of fascists.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I hope he got a lot of money to sell us out.

[–] some_dude@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Probably in the minority here and I'm not a fan of establishment Democrats, but his reasoning that Trump would use the shutdown to move without court interference seemed logical to me.

[–] heraplem@leminal.space 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Even so, the way Schumer handled this was just awful. Vulnerable Democrats in the House stuck their necks out to vote against the CR. Then Schumer acted like he was going to filibuster it, but it was really just a procedural ruse. He burned his colleagues in the House and the Democratic base. If he was going to allow the CR to proceed, then he should have been signalling that since the beginning, and he certainly should never have acted like he was going to block it.

Also, as a personal matter, the tone that Schumer has been taking really grates on me. His solution is always to just roll over and let the Republicans do whatever. Maybe that's the rational thing to do, reasonable minds can disagree, but he always seems so smug about it, as if that were obviously correct, and anyone who suggests that we should fight is a moron.

And whenever I hear him talk, I never get a sense of urgency. It's as if nothing that's going on really bothers him, and he's 100% certain that things will turn out just fine like they always have. And that's just objectively not true. Regardless of what our strategy should be, Trump is doing irreversible damage. Even if we end up winning the House in 2026 and the Presidency in 2028, our international reputation is going to be completely fucked for at least a decade, and very likely longer than that. Schumer should be worried, even if only for his own self-interest, because the system that has been so good to him is at risk of collapsing.

Even if he made the rational move in allowing the CR to proceed, I really think he's just not a good leader or spokesperson for the party.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And whenever I hear him talk, I never get a sense of urgency. It’s as if nothing that’s going on really bothers him, and he’s 100% certain that things will turn out just fine like they always have.

They've all sounded like that for my entire life as I watched the world fall apart around me.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their world is doing just fine!

[–] heraplem@leminal.space 1 points 21 hours ago

But that's not even true. Trump is fucking things up for everyone in difficult-to-reverse ways. Schumer just doesn't seem to have realized that.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 23 points 1 day ago (6 children)

You know Trump could have just vetoed the spending bill and then got his shutdown right? Or the Republicans could have not submitted a bill or even voted against with that argument that it was better for Trump to have his way.

This has just legitimized him further in that when push comes to shove people (Democrats) do agree with giving him what he wants. He's an unchecked bully.
This is not logical it's easy.

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

This CR gives Musk a ticket to do whatever he wants, anyways.

So, why give him money to do it?

[–] xye@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I see the logic behind it, but cant decide if the system is now so broken that his logic even works in the new framework.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I dunno who that guy is, but every time I see his face all I can think is..

[–] SomeChick@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

All the progressives should unite under a NEW party banner

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure if that would be easier than usurping power by primarying d's who don't get in line but clearly the geriatric dinosaurs in power in the DNC are half the problem.

The rightwing was really successful in primarying weak republicans who wouldn't toe the line but they essentially had free money (PACs) to do so. The nascent left has no such source of funding, the Sorosbucks to Stanleynickles is terrible.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just a reminder than the dnc knew Bernie was a stronger option than Hillary but gave her the nomination instead. The dnc only cares about your money, not your opinion.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I agree with that.

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I'm sure when Chancellor Trump orders the purging of opposition leaders, he'll leave you alone for sucking his dick like this. Surely debasing yourself before wild animals will keep you from being ripped to shreds by them.

Dictators kill their enemies. Everyone who isn't, and hasn't always BEEN their fiercely loyal, obedient ally is an enemy. Especially if they're a declining, psychopathic, malignant narcissist.

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Big surprise, old suits in the democratic party don't represent the modern democratic voter.

There needs to be term limits, especially based on age, and to whipe out any form of stock trading and "donations".

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The reason they're still in office is for 30 years the DNC has put protecting incumbents above all else, including beating republicans.

The DNC power structure is pretty much the opposite of a democracy, but we just got our furtherest left chair in over 30 years, and his performance as a state party leader shows his biggest concern is beating Republicans, and he's accomplished that to great success by just not putting the party in-between voters and the progressive candidates they want to vote for.

It's an incredibly low bar, but one Ken Martin easily clears.

Don't hate the (literally a month old) new blood for the failings of the old.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Democrats need to primary all these old fucks the way the crazy maga crowd primaried Republicans

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Just for the record, this is what democrats always do, and it's why they keep fucking losing.

Democrats would rather have trump than have a social-democratic platform, and it shows every time they have the opportunity to fight him and chose to capitulate instead. The democrats aren't a left-wing party, certainly not now, and arguably not since FDR.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We need a Tea Party of the Left

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Instead of the ‘Taxed Enough Already’; the left needs the ‘Tax Elites Already’ movement!

The TEA Party, apart from being funded by oligarchs, relied upon their target audience's patriotism.

The left has no patriotism because we know history, so it won't work on us.

[–] WorkersCorps@sopuli.xyz 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The entire Democratic Party leadership needs to resign and be replaced by people who will actually fight for working Americans.

In November Schumer and the other leaders suffered the worst defeat in party history yet they haven't realized the only thing left for them to do is resign in shame.

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[–] TemplaerDude@lemm.ee 86 points 2 days ago (32 children)

Do-nothing Democrats strike again.

Schumer is a coward and a fraud. The weakest leader in a generation. He should resign in shame.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 182 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"The Republican bill is a terrible option," Schumer said in his remarks. "It is deeply partisan. It doesn't address far too many of this country's needs. But I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option."

You fucking twat

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

hes using the republican doublespeak.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 80 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Schumer is a traitor, capitulator and collaborator.

his response to ice literally kidnapping a man for speech was three paragraphs of "oh yeah totally fuck him hate how fucking Arab he is" before finally saying "but this might be a little bit wrong? uwu" and asking for reasons rather than fucking demanding he be released immediately.

Chuck "blackbagging might be wrong" Schumer. between him and Amy I wonder how much worse a family can get.

fascist collaborator piece of shit.

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[–] oakey66@lemm.ee 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Call your democratic rep and demand that they insist Schumer resign.

(202) 224-3121

At this point, I am Not donating a single dollar more to the party. I won’t vote for a democrat at the top of the ticket and will pick a DSA candidate or green candidate. If the democrats aren’t willing to fight for democracy or strengthen it when they’re in power, I won’t reward them with votes.

Every democrat senator needs to be primaried.

So we yell at someone who yells at someone who then says "No." and then we're back where we started.

Plus my democratic Senator has brain damage and I have no democratic representative.

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[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago
[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 129 points 2 days ago (33 children)

OK democratic leadership, you win; I'll quit voting for your party.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (17 children)

"VoTe BlUe no mAtTeR who"

Liberals as always would rather side with fascists.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Perfect encapsulation of the state of the Dem leadership:

"Chuck Schumer caving and saying he’ll vote for a blank check for Trump and Musk is demonstrative of why Democrats lose," lamented progressive activist and writer Jonathan Cohn. "Voters so often don’t believe what they [Dem leadership] say because they don’t believe what they say."

(Emphasis and clarification in brackets mine)

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[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 104 points 2 days ago (25 children)

I quit. American politics are a circus sideshow full of dancing turds. At this point, let it burn. The side that I vote for won’t even stand up against this shit, so what good is my vote now?

Just a bunch of rich assholes doing whatever they want.

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