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'People Will Not Forget': Fury as Schumer Caves to Trump-Musk Destruction
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"I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option."
What's his reason for saying this? How does a government shutdown give Trump more power?
no reasoning other than having an excuse to vote in favor of the bill.
Citing what I saw on Philip DeFranco earlier, apparently in a shutdown the executive branch has a lot of power in terms of what specifics get shutdown and how.
Was news to me considering the shitshow that happens every time the budget needs to be voted on but with all the DOGEness going on makes sense that there's extra caution around this. Still sucks that Dems rolled over so easily.
Nothing is stopping the republicans from shutting it down themselves if it was so beneficial to Trump.
And it’s not like they wouldn’t lie and blame it on the Democrats, so there’s minimal risk in voter agitation vs alleged reward.
I think mostly it is revealing about Schumer's priorities. He has a government job. If everything within the buildings in Washington DC is mostly still working the way it's supposed to, then at the end of the day he still gets a paycheck and some important stuff to do every day. Lots of people across the US going through upheaval, losing their jobs, maybe getting detained indefinitely or not, journalists getting threatened, all that stuff isn't, like, good, but it's also not an existential threat to him. The government shutting down would be.
And so, avoiding that is a key priority of his. It's urgent. All that other stuff is not.
Plus it's a great opportunity for dozens of trolls to push a republican narrative on social media. Maybe a message to anyone left-leaning to stop voting.
When voting doesn't change anything maybe it's time to do something more?
As long as it's more and not less.
Did we trying giving speeches at colleges?
We did. They got arrested for it.
Under a democrat. The greater evil is deportation, so we should all be happy with arrest.
What difference which party? Smooth brain one party does it. The other party allows it. This isn't a football game, your team doesn't exist. This isn't a movie, Rambo isn't gonna save you.
Caving to the republicans was all the reward schumer needed.
A congressional recess during shutdown means that nobody would be left to hold Trump accountable. Except, they're already not doing that, so...
It doesn't. He is lying and he knows it. I won't attempt to recreate his spin, because it doesn't make any sense.
Congress in theory has the power to hold back, punish, or even remove the president. The government shutdown causes a congressional recess.
I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever... Its not like anyone is opposing Trump anyway so what's the point of capitulating and preventing a govt shutdown... There is no point other than bending a fucking knee.
It's bullshit to cover up for the fact that his corporate donors like Blackstone can't handle any more stock market pain.
If the goverment shuts down, the buildings and agencies will be empty, because all government workers will be home. But DOGE and Musk arent government workers, and theyll have unimpeded access to EVERYTHING, with absolutely nobody to observe what they are doing.
They already have that.
Yeah that's my question too. Does it unlock some military related powers? Maybe if there is no gov theres no legal oversight power?
It doesn't unlock anything new, it just removes the lion handler from the lion's circus act. Although, that lion handler was a Republican majority and wasn't doing anything anyways.
It doesn't. It's a straight up lie. He's enthusiastically complicit.