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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Because they own the platform.

Hence, why Lemmy was needed.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 58 minutes ago (2 children)

Lemmy's security is largely in its obscurity. If the community ever gains the degree of popularity or prominence as Reddit, it will succumb to all the same socio-economic pressures.

Hell, Reddit's origin story isn't far off from Lemmy's. A left-wing FOSS guy pioneers a novel means of aggregating information in a relatively decentralized and community-oriented way. But then the capitalists move in, he's arrested, the administration of the site is auctioned off to VCs, and the site is slowly mutated into an echo chamber for neoliberal propagandists and reactionary agitators to scream at one another, drowning everything else out.

Lemmyites want to believe they've engineered a technical solution to what is ultimately a socio-economic problem. The human labor that makes Lemmy work can be attacked and replaced, the communities that form alienated from one another and censored by moderators and dispersed, and the popularity monetized here just like has happened elsewhere.

This isn't a safe social media space. Its just a lingering redoubt in an internet that's been under siege for decades.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 4 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

As I understand it, the fediverse as a whole is composed of instances, each one communicating with whichever other instances it wishes (the instances acting as social medias of sorts). Each instance is created by people making their own thing, so if one large instance (such as Lemmy.world) were to get taken over by filthy capitalists, someone could simply make a new, separate instance and choose not to federate with Lemmy world. Is this not the case?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

if one large instance (such as Lemmy.world) were to get taken over by filthy capitalists, someone could simply make a new, separate instance and choose not to federate with Lemmy world.

Websites get traded on the backend regularly without hemorrhaging their userbases. A large site is going to have a degree of inertia. People aren't going to all simultaneously pick up out of .world and go to .world2 because someone on le.mee or .shi.tjustworks talks shit about the mods. There's too much of a trust deficit, just for starters. And it would be a two-way street if it wasn't (people in .world claiming le.mee was the one that got taken over and you should decamp from them to our instance).

Past that, you can always make a new website even before federation. The trick is then getting a working community to include you in their network of links and shares. Federation makes that process more explicit and more pronounced. But most local instances have learned not to federate with everyone in the fediverse (because there's so much gnarly shit out there), which means doing promotion and negotiation to get your new instance recognized by the survivors.

In a single case of a single instance getting taken over, migration is possible if a bit painful. But if it happens repeatedly, thanks to a professional business team going after instances strategically while individual largely-ignorant users have to respond organically, then the Fediverse doesn't have a chance over the long term. Eventually, the business interest gets control of enough high profile domains and pollutes the means of interpersonal communication to such a high degree that you either trust your instance or you abandon the Fediverse entirely.

It becomes a game of "Who Is The Werewolf?", which strategically favors the werewolves.

[–] skeesx@lemm.ee 2 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

Reddit was never FOSS. Linux is still going stong, even with vested financial interests.

Most importantly, wie have already made the decision to leave traditional social media and build something better. If worst comes to wiorst, we'll find each other again.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Reddit was never FOSS.

Reddit went full open-source in 2008 with a Github repo, did a (possibly deliberately) poor job of maintaining the repo despite this source code resulting in a plethora of 3rd party site enhancements and feature suites, then ultimately close its code nine years later.

Linux is still going stong, even with vested financial interests.

RedHat did Linux extremely dirty, and they're hardly the first. It also has a significantly larger, more skilled, and more international userbase.

Most importantly, wie have already made the decision to leave traditional social media and build something better.

That's a beautiful lie. Lemmy's federation has been its pioneering feature, but it continues to backslide into Reddit-with-Extra-Steps. If anyone could claim they were building something truly novel, it was Mastadon. But that complexity and novelty has been an albatross around their necks since day one.

If worst comes to wiorst, we’ll find each other again.

:-/

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is really one of the biggest problem we have. They influence elections, they influence public opinion, they spin the narrative as they want.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 56 minutes ago

But have you throught about the parasite being uncomfortable because peasants meme Luigi tho?

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They want to establish the narrative of Luigi-the-terrorist, but human beings know who is the reasonable one.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

human beings know who is the reasonable one

I remember people saying that about Julian Assange and Edward Snowden twenty years ago. It didn't take long for popular opinion to turn on them, though. Just call the whistleblowers allies of the opposition party or props of an evil foreign government. Americans hate that. And the American public soured on them rapidly, as a result.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 2 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

Posting an image of a person who is known to everyone as the (suspected) murderer of a capitalist, whom he explicitly murdered for his capitalistic practices, and referring to a distinct but similar set of calitalistic practices is not "a non-violent Luigi post". It's not directly calling for violence, sure. But the connection is pretty clear. If the Right did something like that, we'd probably call it a ((likely intentionally) poorly disguised) dog whistle.

I'm not saying the post is evil and ban-worthy. Which side an action is done for matters. You might say, the ends justify the means. But get your terminology right, and shed the centrists' illusions. And non-violence is an illusion. This is the propaganda theatre of a class war. And Reddit is fighting for the enemy.

Thats the point. They are banning class warfare; not violence.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

If the billionaires aren't getting mad at this, they are getting something good from it. Most likely in the form of extreme tax cuts (and the moral type of fraud). They'd have less capital but more for themselves.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 65 points 5 hours ago

The moment Robber Barons were first stopped, they starting working to rig things so they are never stopped again.

The only way to remind them that they have no such power is the French way.

All Tesla dealerships should be on fire by now. Now protected by a wall of obese 'police' that would not pass the most lenient tests to join the police force in any country of the EU.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 42 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Now that I'm no longer on Reddit, I feel that I can finally speak my mind.

The only way we will be able to get rid of the billionaires is if we drag them out of their mansions by their hair and stick them into a guillotine. We need to face that they are too powerful for the law to take care of, and I doubt they will let themselves be taxed out of their riches. The only way to get rid of the dragon is to decapitate it.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 19 points 3 hours ago

Case in point, the richest one is currently dismantling the world's most powerful government from the inside, with impunity

[–] rxmc@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They're immune to laws. They're immune to protests. Their money is untouchable. But they're touchable. Nobody is immune to ballistics. Nobody really wants to open box number four but I fear we are there.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Hear hear. Hate to quote Dorito Mussolini, but "he who saves the world breaks no laws."

I mean, its true. The American Revolutionaries were committing treason until they won against the British.

If you win, your new judicial system would legalized everything you did.

[–] beezzeeb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, it was real nice of him to point that out for the rest of us 😀

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