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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 3 points 17 minutes ago

Yes, more Chinese infrastructure, that phones home and can be turned off remotely, with a switch, is definitely what the West need.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago

Why just a tariff? Just ban all Tesla vehicle imports and all sales of new Tesla vehicles. For owners of existing vehicles they should be offered a generous buyback and equally generous loan terms for a new or used car. That would encourage most Tesla owners to trade-in their vehicles.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 hours ago

Or just fix public transit for fucks sake. Evs are a distraction from the problemm

[–] sunfur82@lemmy.ca 1 points 48 minutes ago

I was thinking the same thing. I always thought one of the main reasons for the 100% tariffs was to be in line with what the US wanted. But with things being the way they are, I think we should open the door for Chinese EVs. If it benefits Canada, we should do it. I'm not well versed on the Chinese EVs, but from some of the documentaries I've seen, the quality is comparable to the US models, if not better, due to the features that they pack into their base models. I know that there are concerns about eavesdropping and data collection, but isn't that a risk with the US too? And especially the way the US is now, I'd trust them even less. Because it goes beyond the data collection, it goes to their intention of annexation.

I'd rather we open the door to Chinese EVs, or any other competitors, just so our trade is more diversified. (I'm not familiar with the infrastructure investments that would be required for Chinese EVs, or policy adjustments, I just think it's something that should be seriously explored and implemented, just so we're not so dependent on the US alone).

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 hours ago

The benefit of a tarrif on Tesla vs opening the market to China is that we can easily undo it if there is a US coup, Trump gets medicated, gets burned, whatever. There's still the potential that this is a temporary situation, not the new reality. If we open up to a third party, we can't put the genie back in the bottle.

[–] Onemadmother@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Why not do both? I like public transit idea but does not work for smaller/rural communities

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago

Someone's doing the happy hunny dance....

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

That feels like "robbing Peter to pay Paul". We don't want to be dependent on either nationalist autocracy.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

Mercedes make pretty good EVs but dunno if they're in Canada. They're definitely cheaper in Europe though.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 19 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

I dont think there is a single privacy friendly EV on the market.

If a Canadian company could build and export an EV that wasn't loaded with invasive sensors and where the data recording and uploading was opt-in (or non existent), loads of US Americans and Europeans would import them from Canada.

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 49 minutes ago

I'm pretty sure the VW E-Up is (can be made) privacy friendly (the datamodule that sends the data to VW and into your account can be replaced with an OVMS datamodule)

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think you can expand that to all cars, not just EVs.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago

Hopefully ICE bans will expand in the near future

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[–] AlienContact2049@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 hours ago

I think we should build them ourselves.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Get them to help build factories in Canada

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 hours ago (9 children)

Canada has the same incentive to not open the door to Chinese EVs that the US does.

Why would they shoot themselves in the face just to splash some blood on someone else?

[–] Gewoonmoi@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Canada doesn't have the incentives that the Americans have at all. Correct me if I'm wrong. America's incentive is to protect its own EV industry, Canada doesn't have an EV industry of its own.

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[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 9 hours ago (15 children)

I have a better alternative: invest in viable alternatives to driving! expand protected bike lanes, build the damn high speed rail, more trains, trams and bus lines. One more asphalt lane for cars wont solve traffic problems :)

[–] thefool@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Our newly-elected Premier has unfortunately doubled down on giving cars priority with the mandated removal of bike lanes and building new highways (413), even though their own data says that Toronto with be just as congested a few years after building them.

Oh I forgot to mention the tunnel under the 401, which is a massive boondoggle waiting to happen

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago

Walkable cities. Biking infrastructure. Reliable public transit.

Regularless of of what'd going on in the world right now, these would make our cities far better.

[–] docgerbil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Along with more work from home jobs?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago

Just make it so that commutes count as clocked-in time, and let the market sort it out.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Love this idea; however, bringing Chinese cars is like applying pressure to the wound... fixing public transportation is the long term healing process.

1 - They are not mutually exclusive, bring the Chinese cars now while starting on the long term public transportation projects

2 - The Federal gov can act on the Chinese cars now... public transportation is 100% Provincial purview so an entirely different team needs to address this other priority

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