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[–] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

The meme makes it seem lime there's some causal relationship though: because we tried to avoid big corp products and dampen enshittification, the alternatives we started to seek are going bad? I don't think so. The world at large is going to shit in a general stream of shitfulness, but I don't think we caused that development by trying to evade the shit.

[–] Darkhoof@lemmy.world 3 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

What happened with Proton?

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 minutes ago

The proton CEO praised Donald Trump's choice for who would lead the government's antitrust division, and now most of Lemmy think they're a Nazi company or something.

Just typical cancel culture bullshit. Where people choose to be outraged rather than attempting to understand a situation.

use truly foss apps. Anything that’s has a corp built around it is going to enshitify

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 40 minutes ago

It's good to have some variety - after all different things get shitty in different ways.

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder what is going to be Firefox reason to even exist if we already have Chrome and Edge?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 32 minutes ago

Allows other competitors to exist

Chrome/edge are the same (yes, I know edge is technically better)

If everything only needs to adhere to chromium then chromium can put propriety code that only they are privy to and when web standards are made around it all competition can’t exist

We already have webapps that say they only work on chrome

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

PLENTY of reasons if they oppose enshitification... but if they embrace it, then yes, they'll just be another pimple in the ass of enshitificated software

[–] Katzenmann@feddit.org 13 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I went all-in on proton a few years ago but I dislike the direction in which they are going now. Does anybody have tips on how (and where) to switch smoothly. I could self host email but I've heard that it's a big hassle

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 31 minutes ago

Depends what you want. If you want an experience like Proton with its own app then use Tuta. If you're happy with IMAP with a client like Evolution (Linux) or FairEmail (mobile for Android) or access via a website then mailbox.org are very good.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 41 minutes ago

I've been eyeing FastMail.

Self hosting is almost impossible with email these days. Places like Gmail and Outlook are going to consider you automatically suspicious until you've proven otherwise. Can't prove otherwise until you have a lot of legit email going through. The only way to do that is to attach the domain to a service that's already proven.

This isn't even getting into the configuration issues of running an email server without it becoming a spam relay as soon as it's turned on.

[–] Tencho@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

What exactly is their direction? I heard the ceo is an ass, but their software seems fine to me.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, someone made Graphene OS, a fork of Android. Surely someone can also do that for Firefox, right? 👀

[–] NewDay@lemmy.world 26 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

There are several Firefox forks. Waterfox (based in Europe UK), Librewolf, Zen etc.

[–] grepe@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

i switched from firefox to waterfox on my phone and have yet to spot any difference.

i heard some websites might have issues (e.g. web versions of office software) and some settings are missing but in my own everyday use i didn't run into any of those yet.

[–] twoface@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Just chiming in to recommend Floorp. Have been using it for a few months now and really like it :D

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I tried Zen on Arch. Wouldn't even load pages. I'd avoid it for a while. 🤷‍♂️

[–] Neuropain@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 hours ago

I use Zen on Arch without issue. To be specific it's Arch Wayland with Wayfire.

[–] AdamUllstrom@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

I have been loving LibreWolf for a while now. Can really recommend it!

[–] TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Which would yiu recommend librewolf or waterfox?

[–] NewDay@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Librewolf is definitely better if you are a hardcore privacy nerd. I used it but it broke some sites due to the privacy settings. Waterfox is better than Firefox privacy-wise. Waterfox is in the sweet spot for me. Waterfox has an app but I do not like it because it was very slow compared to the Firefox app. I use Waterfox as desktop browser and Firefox as mobile browser.

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