I mean, yeah? They are literally talking about invading former allies.
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Despite all the noise around this, I find it strange how little we seem to be taking this seriously, like they're the ramblings of a confused old man rather than threats made by the president of the United States...
Canadian here, I feel the exact same way... like why is no one taking a firm stand against this guy!
Same feeling 8 years ago, honestly.
Yeah, it's not new. Eventually, this shit has to become so pressing and obvious people realise history isn't over, and history isn't over here, but the normalcy bias has proven strong beyond belief.
I really, really though it was going to come to a head after Trump lost his re-election. A thing did happen, but then everyone went back to worrying about paperwork.
We should stop calling it "the west" then.
It's always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
We should think of a new name...
The Free World
Ahh yeah, because people in China aren’t free, they’re all slaves. Same with Russia. And all of the Middle East.
Westerners just have for the lowest wages their companies will pay them because if they don’t they’ll become destitute. Certainly not coercive.
Hey yo, isn’t there a little exception in our “abolishing of slavery”? I wonder why we have such a large percentage of prisoners here in America, compared to the rest of the world.
Ever heard of prisoner leasing?
Free world my ass.
There's stops between free and enslaved. Seeing as we're talking about not including the US, I think I'll stand by it being freer.
What is this, 2010?
^TM^
The free world maybe?
How do you explain this to the slaves in USA?
"The US is an enemy of the free world, just look at this Lemmy thread!" (that we're currently in)
The who?
Likely referring to the millions of people who are subjected to forced prison labor either without pay or for less than $1 an hour by for-profit prisons. This system has direct historical roots in the chattel slave economy, and even served as a direct drop-in replacement for chattel slaves on the very same plantations after the 13th amendment prohibited slavery except as punishment for a crime.
To this day the profit motive creates a perverse incentive for the owners of for-profit prisons to fight against efforts to reduce recidivism, since recidivism is good for their business. Our prison system serves not to rehabilitate, or even to punish, but rather to exploit the waiver of prisoners' rights that is enshrined in our constitution for profit.
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Because if ya ain't white, you can't be free!
the empire
the Imperial Core is already a more descriptive name, methinks
The "other side" is imperial too. That doesn't make sense.
The entire thing is just imperial powers battling and using everything in-between as pawns.
Do you think Russia, China and Saudi Arabia aren't doing the same thing to places?
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I guess "NATO and friends" might be a bit shortsighted?
NATO and Friends sounds like some Paw Patrol type cartoon.
There's also Canada, NZ, South America, a lot of Africa and Asia
No country in South America, Africa or Asia is part of "the west".
I admit I forgot Canada and New Zealand, as is tradition.
Japan and South Korea aren't in Asia? I'd certainly count them as "western", especially Japan. if I'm feeling especially generous I might provisionally include Brazil too.
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The point was to stop using the term the west, because there's a lot more
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Regardless of “official policy”, I will always stand with Ukraine. In fact, now more than ever, it might be time I get a Ukraine flag to fly on my house.
Better send that money towards their drone production.
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Thank heavens someone is finally writing this .
Yes ofc.. Everything Trump has been saying and doing is insane.
But [ maybe] we should also be carefull about simply parroting US media. It seems the USA media en politicians want to escalate this. Actually, the US media while apperantly trashing Trump, may be playing exactly in his hands.
Or am I stretching it? I mean have you noticed how the (established) EU media and politicians have been more nuanced in their reports?
It doesn't matter. USA has shown again, that they're an unreliable partner. You have good relations with President A and a few years later, everything is down the drain with President B. You can't build a solid relationship on that basis. You now have the worlds strongest military in the hands of a billionare and I don't mean Trump.
Canada and EU should plan their future without US involved.
European Reactions to the U.S. Retreat From Democracy
[...] Three levels of concern are emerging.
First, and of most immediate importance, is the issue of international democracy funding. With nearly all U.S. democracy aid dramatically frozen, European donors are already receiving hundreds of requests to provide emergency support to the affected civil society recipients. [...] European funding for democratic governance is around €4 billion ($4.2 billion) a year, compared with U.S. funding of around $3 billion, meaning European donors would need to increase funding levels by around 75 percent to cover the shortfall entirely [...]
A second concern is more self-protective [as] many in the EU and European governments fear they face a more crucial task of defending European democracy itself from brazen and truculent U.S. assaults. Far from filling the gap left by suspended U.S. funding, the EU seems to be on a trend toward diverting more resources internally—that is, into protecting European democracy from harmful U.S. interventions. The Trump administration has supported the far-right figures who are unsettling European democracy, while U.S. big tech is now seen as a major threat to political pluralism in Europe [...]
A third level of putative adjustment relates to the broader shape of global democratic alliances. Beyond the EU’s own funding choices, the question arises of how far international cooperation on democracy can now be built without the United States [...] Non-Western democracies have often complained about heavy-handed U.S. leadership of the democracy agenda [...] A key question is whether these democracies will want to invest large amounts of resources in a post-U.S. democracy agenda. They will now face a crucial test of whether they are willing to adopt such proactive agency [...]
Paywall. Someone kind enough to share a link?
Thank you!
I suppose the article was free for a time if it could be archived? I'll check next time
They let themselves go too much
The eagle of liberty now has two heads
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