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[–] sircac@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I would prefer any ActivityPub instance, but press media (and in general private entities), to which scientific institutes intend diffusion, is moving to bluesky...

[–] Mars2k21@sh.itjust.works 35 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Going to play devil's advocate here.

Bluesky is just...better than any Fediverse microblogging platform. In terms of UI, discoverability, and keeping a balance of users in the community.

Mastodon sucks for regular people. And none of the other better platforms like Firefish ever gain enough steam to beat Mastodon because of existing issues in the structure of the Fediverse and ActivityPub (this also includes Mastodon itself to an extent).

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 8 minutes ago

Mastodon is great.

The only reason why it doesn't get as much traction is because it doesn't manipulate your dopamine and serotonin receptors like other networks do with their black box algorithms that are designed to steal as much of your attention as possible, while almost certainly throwing you into an unhealthy filterbubble/echochamber.

[–] oni@lemm.ee 2 points 52 minutes ago

what are those?

existing issues in the structure of the Fediverse and ActivityPub

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

The other issue is, nobody is trying to take on Facebook. Not really anything in the FLOSS community like it.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

I believe you've hit the nail on the head, the only people I've noticed that really want such a social media account are generally people who were older than millennial, out of Millennials, gen Z and gen A, I don't really see much interest in a social media account that is directly linked to your actual identity. Most of them are more interested in a pseuado-anonymous style account that only asks for a username and doesn't actually link you to a real world identity.

Facebook was great in principle, it was intended as like a college student community and evolved from there, it was never meant to fill the goal of what the platform is doing today.

As such as Facebook deteriorates, there isn't a huge demand for a Facebook alternative, because the people who are leaving the platform aren't actively seeking to replace what is lost.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

There's a couple contenders but they're not very good. I think most FOSS people don't WANT a facebook alternative; they'd prefer to keep their IRL identity separate from the internet. And the people who don't care also don't care enough to want to go federated.

There's spacehey as a myspace alternative though. That's pretty neat but it's full of teenagers unfortunately.

[–] gheesh@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Friendica aims at that. I'm not sure about the results as I haven't tried it.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 33 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Would be better if it was Mastodon, but I suppose I shouldn't let perfect be the enemy of good, and good riddance to Twitter, indeed.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Same here, well said. Bluesky’s not perfect, at least it’s not Twitter. I wish more people would use it though

[–] shininghero@pawb.social 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

While there has been some onboarding QOL stuff for mastodon, Bluesky still has them beat on that.

The "People" segment in the explore menu is a nice start, but it's still dependent on the users picking a server that somewhat matches their interests.

[–] grepe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

thing is lot of that is on purpose. mastodon and fediverse are more of an attempt to come back to the state where there is no algorithm picking for you... but too many people nowdays are simply too lazy to search and actively choose what they want to see.

what we really need is to separate content (keep that in fediverse) and content access and presentation (the interface people use to access the content). if you want a bot feeding you content whole day and for your internet to become a tv you nobody can stop you. but if you want to think amd search nobody should stop you either

[–] lemmus@szmer.info 13 points 5 hours ago

The thing is, bluesky is just old twitter, it will become X eventually...Bluesky sucks, but jessus, mastodon sucks in terms of usability. Its only for technical people and experience on mastodon is fatal compared to bluesky, sad that mastodon won't take over, as it could...at least bluesky is not bad YET.

[–] pls@lemmy.plaureano.nohost.me 6 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

I have no clue on the reasons people like Bluesky (or threads). None at all.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Bluesky has a lot more normies on it while mastodon is mostly early-adopter types. Mastodon, in my experience, is either very technical people (software engineers and other tech people) or very political people. Bluesky has normal people on it

I checked out threads for a day and I liked it because the algorithm wasn't jamming a bunch of outrage content down my throat but that's the only thing I can say about it. Haven't used it since then (deleted my entire meta account)

[–] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Took me like a day on bluesky to find all the funny people. Never saw any funny people on mastodon. :-(

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 4 hours ago

The comedians don't use it. Why would they, there isn't that much of an audience there. Also I don't think there's even particularly political people on it for pretty much the same reason. All of the political commentators I follow either post on bluesky or post on both platforms, somewhat eliminating the need for Masterdon at all (assuming that's the kind of content you want to follow).

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 66 points 10 hours ago (26 children)

I feel like scientists should move towards open source solutions ... I feel like most scientists are smart enough to launch a mastodon server, but well.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

Never worked in academia eh? Plenty of dumb (and, more importantly here, computer illiterate) people there too.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 minutes ago

I'm pretty sure there are a handful of technically literate scientists who are able to install servers lmao.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Being a scientist doesn't mean you have the technical knowledge to run a public facing server.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 minutes ago

Being a scientist kinda means to me you're able to follow a very easy to understand guide to install mastodon on ...

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 6 hours ago

Bluesky is open source though

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[–] DSTGU@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

First time seeing HTTP code 451

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 5 hours ago

"Sorry, it's literally impossible for us not to sell your data!"

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago

https://http.cat/status/451

because I needed an explanation of what that means, and I wanted it to be cute and funny.

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