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[โ€“] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 54 minutes ago

The best people always get the worst hands delt. He should be held up as a hero instead we get this bullshit.

[โ€“] De_Narm@lemmy.world 38 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think he already stated that he does not want to stay in power after the war. It's a win-win if they take his offer. Ukraine gets peace and he gets his well deserved vacation.

[โ€“] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The man needs to have every beer he ever drinks free for life.

[โ€“] farcaster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

I sure would like to buy the man a beer if I ever have the opportunity

That's what true leadership is. He just wants secure borders and a normal fucking life for Ukrainians.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 48 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because that's what a Leader would do.

[โ€“] burt@programming.dev 18 points 3 hours ago

This is a man who truly loves his country and countrymen.

[โ€“] ellypony@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

Future historians will celebrate this man forever.

[โ€“] P1k1e@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago
[โ€“] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't that mean the US has to agree?

[โ€“] cron@feddit.org 11 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, every NATO member has to agree.

[โ€“] Suoko@feddit.it 3 points 48 minutes ago

Who does have to agree ? The man who represents the US in the NATO, the foreign minister, the president, a committee? Who exactly

[โ€“] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

So they're forcing Trump to spell out whether he'll let them in or not. Alright.

[โ€“] Vikthor@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Unfortunately Trump can probably use Orban or Fico to shoot that proposition down without revealing his reasons.

[โ€“] Alxe@lemmy.world 2 points 53 minutes ago

Erdogan is seemingly positioning themselves more closely to Ukraine, not necessarily because of being pro Ukraine but for being anti Russian. Effectively ceding control of the Black Sea coast to Russia is a big no-no.

[โ€“] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Good point.

[โ€“] cron@feddit.org 5 points 2 hours ago

Not only the US might have objections, remember how long it took for Sweden to join NATO due to Erdogan's veto.