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Donald Trump stated that Palestinians displaced by Israel’s military actions would not have a right to return to Gaza under his plan.

Instead, he proposed resettling them in Egypt and Jordan, despite both nations rejecting the idea.

Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a "real estate development for the future."

His proposal has drawn condemnation from Arab nations and legal experts, with the UN warning it could constitute ethnic cleansing and violate international law.

Israel’s far-right settlers welcomed the plan.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 132 points 1 week ago (37 children)

Biden’s Gaza policy was tragic, but still, fuck anyone that voted to throw gas onto that fire.

Guy behind the Muslim ban, with the Christian nationalist base, was always going to make things worse.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dudes gonna single handedly start WW3

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 90 points 1 week ago (3 children)

his handler in moscow deserves some credit

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 74 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not even gonna try to pretend it isn't ethnic cleansing...

[–] aleq@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People can weasel themselves around terms like "fascist" quite easily, because there are multiple definitions, many are very diffuse and there's a lot of disagreement around it - but ethnic cleansing to my understanding is quite simple and this is it. Can any serious political commentator pretend it's not? For example the forced removal of Poles from west Poland (annexed by USSR) after WW2 for example was not a slaughter, but is considered an act of ethnic cleansing.

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[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People immigrating to the US? Criminal invaders. The biggest threat to America. Meanwhile, let's turn an entry country into refugees and forcibly relocate them into other countries without the consent of anyone involved. Makes perfect sense. /s

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Member when people were saying Kamala would be worse than Trump for Palestinians, LOL! How's that vote/abstain working out now?

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

They probably think it worked out great, since it was only ever an op by hostile elements to convince absolute fucking idiots to vote against their own interests.

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[–] tym@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Friendly reminder: The crescendo of the first six months of project 2025 is using civil unrest to deploy the US Military as a domestic police force. The accompanying suspension of habeus corpus is absolutely needed for them to turn up the heat even more.

They're laying the groundwork for defanging the judicial branch as we speak - it's their last obstacle.

From https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-i/clauses/763 (emphasis mine):

"The Suspension Clause protects liberty by protecting the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus. It provides that the federal government may not suspend this privilege except in extraordinary circumstances: when a rebellion or invasion occurs and the public safety requires it. "

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The sheer audacity of treating sovereign territories like Monopoly properties reveals the bankruptcy of modern geopolitics. Trump's alleged "Gaza swap" proposal – offering Egypt debt relief for absorbing a war-torn enclave – reeks of casino diplomacy where human lives become bargaining chips. This isn't statecraft, it's a foreclosure auction on human dignity.

Egypt's immediate rejection proves even authoritarian regimes recognize some lines shouldn't be crossed. But the real tragedy lies in normalizing this billionaire's mentality that every crisis is a leveraged buyout opportunity. From the Abraham Accords to this Gaza garage sale, it's all about transactional trophy deals while ignoring root causes.

The Mediterranean doesn't need another real estate mogul playing Risk with refugee camps. This isn't solving conflict – it's outsourcing oppression through financial blackmail. The message is clear: human rights have become adjustable-rate mortgages in the hands of dealmakers.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aaaaand, why is the president of the US making plans for the people in a county he has no authority over again?

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[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Long story short, when people are hungry and broke and without a place to live, they become desperate, but then when you do something that really makes them angry. They stop being desperate and they start becoming violent. Not just people in the Middle East mind you I’m talking all people from British colonists to French students yelling about revolution all the way down to Germans, who survived the World War I only to see part of their country, giving away the treaty of Versailles. 

 Donald Trump‘s plan is just asking for further acts of terrorism against America and our interest overseas

I feel sorry for any service member who is killed because Donald Trump wants to build another hotel that will inevitably go bankrupt 

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Lmao. Enjoy Dearborn, Michigan. When he kicks you out, you can join them in limbo.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 89 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

"But if the Dems ran a better candidate...."

"But Harris didn't even stop in Dearborn, so it's her fault not ours"

"Sure, everything Trump says is a lie, but at least he stopped here to lie to our faces. It's the dem's fault."

"One of Trump's first acts last time was a Muslim ban, but I can't be arsed to remember that far back"

"I had to vote for this otherwise the dems wouldn't learn anything"

/s

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (34 children)

"we just had to teach the DNC a lesson at the polls during that specific election!!!"

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (9 children)

But if the Dems ran a better candidate…

This is completely valid criticism. Stop pretending it's not. The DNC is in the habit of specifically going out of their way to choose unpopular pundits, and that's not voters fault.

Voting for Trump, or not voting is their fault...

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean Jordan said recently that they'd consider pushing refugees across their border an act of war. Trump's "plan", if it can even be called that, doesn't include a realistic way to bring about all this. I think I represent a good number of Muslims when I way: Fuck him, but it ain't happening.

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[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This was literally Bidens plan as well.

You can have fun laughing at people that didn't want to vote for someone directly responsible for killing their families (as if you'd be different at all), but don't do it because you think this is something worse that Trump is doing that Biden wouldn't.

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[–] tym@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The real lesson of trump: you can get away with anything after you've conditioned your victims enough.

I read recently that all conservatism is is "I'm a good person and anyone who says otherwise deserved whatever I did to them."

Pretty sure this is how it all started in the 1930s.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's ironic that China seems to be the country supporting the Palestinians, I kinda feel we might be the baddies.

[–] narp@feddit.org 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not ironic it all.

The US condemns China for the treatment of the Uyghurs. US good, China bad.

China condemns the US for the treatment of the Palestinians. China good, US bad.

Both countries don't give a shit about either.

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I don't think China (the government) actually cares. Just like the US supporting Ukraine, the US (the government) does not actually care about Ukrainians.

Russia - Ukraine conflict

Israel - Palestine conflict

Its all just a chess game to become (or remain) the superpower

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Sadly every major power tends to be the baddies to some extent, it's how they get to be and stay major powers. We just get to grade on a curve. Nazi Germany really set the curve and the US got to be the pretty unambiguous good guys, at least up to the firebombing campaign in Japan, the nuclear bombs, and being complicit after the fact in Japanese atrocities by shielding them from consequences.

While we have an "ambient" level of baddie-ness most of the time, we at least have balanced it out by sometimes defending against unjust violence and providing humanitarian aid.

Now Trump seeks to turn that baddie scale up to the max while simultaneously cutting out all aid efforts.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What's the end goal here, cause another 9/11 so he can declare martial law?

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

"I'M PROTEST VOTING. " - Dumb Bastards

[–] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Hey CNN, wanna interview those protest voters again?

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Of course he does not. Every American president has always voted against Palestinian self-determination at the UN.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

So people have no right to their property, their owned real estate? Hmmm, lets try this in another failed state, the US.

[–] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

So.... More concentration camps?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Predictable, but even so.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Hey but at least all those enlightened dipshits didn't vote for Kamala! Who could have guessed that Trump's Palestine policy would be even worse?? Oh yeah, everyone else. Thanks a lot dipshits

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