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[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 105 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's reusing, not recycling.

Remember, recycling is the last of the 3 Rs. You should reduce or reuse first.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The third one is ECYCE

[–] Brekky@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is that true? I thought recycling was giving new purpose to an old object. Reuse to me implies another person using the object but in the same way it was originally intended.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

No, that's reusing. Recycling is breaking down the product into materials so it can be used to make new stuff.

The cycle in recycle means the production cycle.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Given that this is changing the product itself, it's more repurposing than reusing, which I'd say fits between reuse and recycle.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It works better if you think about the raw materials rather than the whole product;

Reduce the amount of plastic you use
Reuse the plastic you already have
Recycle the plastic you can't use anymore

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I guess it would technically be upcycling

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

No, the cycle doesn't close if you turn one product into a different one. Recycling is melting one bottle and turning into a new bottle. If you turn one product into a lower quality one, it's downcycling. Unless you are very proud of what you did, than it's upcycling

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

sad Krebs cycle face

What you’re describing is just giving/loaning/borrowing which don’t start with R but still contribute to a moneyless value economy which is still great for improving the efficient sharing of the resource pool toward desirable ends

[–] Vinstaal0@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reparing is the first one, idk where reduce comes into the saying.

Maybe we need to include a 4th R?

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would argue that repair is part of re-use, since you are allowing it to be used again. So would be part of the second r. The first r is reduce, which would boil down to: if you already have one, don't buy another. It's more effective to not need the resources in the first place.

[–] Vinstaal0@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No it’s not, the full ladder is basically (and even legally here in NL rvo.nl )

  1. Refuse and rethink
  2. Reduce
  3. Re-use
  4. Refair/refurbish
  5. Recycle
  6. Recover

But the saying is often used as “Repair, Reuse, Recycle” in the right to repair programs.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like those 6, but was not the mnemonic that was advertised around me. In general the order follows the life cycle of the minerals, so reduce is first as it means you dig up less. Reuse/repair is after it has been dug up, so less goes to disposal.

[–] Vinstaal0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

But you should first try to reuse something bedore you start to repurpose (or reuse it). If it can’t be repaired or it isn’t viable enough (because nobody want’s it or nobbody wants to pay for the repair) then reuse it

[–] merari42@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago

People with a single lever mixer tap:

Look what they need to Imitate a fraction of our power

[–] mikey@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Gonna love those microplastics leeching in over time as well.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Microplastics are the least of your concern in these houses. Dual tap design implies open hot water reservoir with things living and dying in it. (it's dual because law forbids connecting undrinkable water to drinkable water systems)

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Weird. I’ve seen plenty of dual tap systems but never an open water heater. Dual tap are simpler and cheaper - that’s what they used long ago. Where are you that you see this?

I certainly remember a time when most faucets and valves were dual tap gate valves with rubber washers, because the o-rings needed for more complex faucets were expensive or not yet available

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago

They still seem to be used a lot in countries like the UK where I guess they want to feel like steampunk engineers every time they want to get the correct temperature of water come out of their taps.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gate valves not globe valves? Maybe they are just older than me but gate valves seem like a horrendous design for faucets as they are generally much larger than the size of the piping due to the gate and they have very poor throttling capabilities

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Gate valves are a great design because they take advantage of the natural properties of rubber to make a seal. When compressed, rubber washers do well at spreading out to make a good seal. However rubber does not have the integrity to work under constant compression and with sideway movement, as an o-ring in a modern faucet.

Gate valves are a great design, because they’re relatively simple, easy to manufacture, and tolerant to rough manufacturing and irregularities.

Once you’re able to cheaply mass produce synthetic rubbers with varying properties, metal parts with higher precision and greater complexity, the possibilities function much better

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Today I learned... Jesus

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

(it’s dual because law forbids connecting undrinkable water to drinkable water systems)

Are you implying that hot water is undrinkable? Sorry, I don't understand but it sounds really interesting.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Even in NA you shouldn’t drink hot tap water. The tanks get covered in scale, there’s always the risk of legionaries.

Where are you that they suggest drinking from the hot tap is okay? It’s not inherently gonna kill you, but hot water tanks aren’t pristine either… you can sure open your mouth and swallow a little while showering, but don’t be making your tea or using it to boil water faster for food.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for the explanation. I don't drink hot water (I filter drinking water in the fridge) I just didn't realize hot water was undrinkable and that there were laws against hooking it up to cold water.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Even if you drain them yearly and “descale” them, it’s never gonna be pretty in there.

You can use a backflow preventer so it doesn’t go back into the city supply which lets you do what you please inside. Even irrigation systems need them, if a main break or a hydrant gets used to fight a fire. There’s the potential for there to be a drop in pressure and it pull stuff out of the ground (or hot water tank) back into the municipal supply.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Woah, that's intense, at first I thought that was some kind of eldritch creature. The house I'm in just got a new hot water tank, I'll ask what they're doing about maintaining it.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Free calcium and iron supplements! /s

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

My water is already hard enough thanks…

My old house I had to replace the element twice in two years and was just contemplating replacing it when we sold it and they missed the hot water issues with their home inspection.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

In short, you shouldn't drink hot water from open systems (popular in UK back in the day) or from boiler that doesn't have a periodical disinfection program (hetaing to 90C once a week)

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's why I eat plastic, gotta use that macro plastic to fight the micro plastics

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

microplastics when macroplastics walk in:

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

If you eat enough, it collects and then you can flush it from your system easier!

!THIS IS A LIE. DO NOT DO THIS.!<

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 weeks ago

And microplastics

[–] 97xBang@feddit.online 16 points 2 weeks ago

Does it sound as great as it looks?

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought this might have been a post from @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world for a hot second.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I wish my posts could be as cool as Bones' posts!

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Adapt. Improvise. Overcome.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Adapt.
Improvise.
Overcome.
Microplastics.

[–] Sternburgexport@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

And microplastic

[–] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Redneck engineering.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Good morning, I choose punctuation.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Oooh, mixer tap! But microplastics... but mixer tap!

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I love everyone commenting about this will add microplastics to your water. We are already full of them.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Someone's mouth used to touch that.