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[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 181 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sigh... If I need to. unzips pants

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There's a strong chance he'd enjoy it; so maybe it's best not to just to spite him. Lol

[–] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 164 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

In other news, shit spewing liar spews more shit and lies to get more of your money.

He thinks they're on the wrong side of history my ass. He doesn't care. He never cared. He will never care. The open source you and I know is completely different than the "open source" this chucklefuck is probably selling you on. "We need to figure out a different open source strategy" should be the biggest indicator here. Take everything he and his circlejerk says with the biggest fucking mountain of salt you can dream of and double it.

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah totally agree. He has proven to be one of the slimiest people on the scene. I mean, he is pretty much throwing his colleagues under the bus in this statement too lol

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

Altman is a parasite and always has been

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

I've never even seen him say something remotely intelligent. He also hires rabid zionists foaming at the mouth to bomb Gaza and in response he was like "I hire muslims so it cancels out man".

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 90 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unless they open source their models, they should be forced to rename to ClosedAI. It's literally false advertising otherwise.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] randomwords@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

OpenVMS, now there's a name I've not heard in a long time, a long time...

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is okay we are good. Already more than ~~3500~~ 9900 have forked DeepSeek.

Wild that it almost tripled in the 48 hours since I last checked.

https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3/forks

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Am i the only one who forks shit ill never touch?

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

No you are not. I do it too.

Personal projects aside, I work for a major industrial technology company in the US East Coast and we are looking into it just in case. It may not be what we want but we are definitely trying it out.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 44 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It grinds my gears that someone who can't be fucked with capitalization has that much money and power. I get that using the shift key occasionally is an inconvenience but we do it to help the readers. A conversation is give and take.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Like all techbros it is an affectation to cultivate a certain sort of appearance. A type of mad faux intellectualism.

You literally have to be a tryhard to do all lowecase on a phone, for example.

[–] HatchetHaro@pawb.social 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

i've disabled auto caps on my phone :o

i generally type in all lower case because it appears more casual, at least to me. it's not exactly a rule i follow, so it's never consistent, and i don't mind capitalizing abbreviations and names and such anyways.

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It seemed to be a trend amongst younger people who would disable auto capitalisation.

[–] shiftymccool@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

Who says he's on a phone?

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[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Man... I initially read that as

can't be fucked with capitalism

and I was thoroughly confused.

[–] skeesx@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

This is the Reason why Germans are angry all the Time.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 31 points 3 weeks ago

Lol. They didn't even publish weights since GPT2. And weights are not enough for open source.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Can someone ELI5? He's admitting it was never truly open? Or they were wrong for thinking open was good at all?

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.

My personal opinion is that closed AI systems are only good if the owners are trustworthy. And in the long-run, no single owner can be trusted. There are risks with letting everyone copy and customize AI, however the worse danger is that the power gets too centralized with one single company.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.

No, that was what OpenAI said its goals originally were. They were lying. They always intended for it to become a capitalist venture. Anyone who listens to Tech Won’t Save Us or This Machine Kills or Team Human have known all along. Or anyone like me who’s been in the industry for thirty years.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I too have been in the industry for many a decade and I heartily concur. I do have many colleagues though that also have been in for many years, and those are still dedicated believers. Maybe their critical thinking has been eaten away by all the lead in soldering tin?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That reminds me, I was temporarily blinded once from breathing in too much soldering fume.

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[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ah interesting - cheers for sharing!

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[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He's saying they're wrong for not currently being open.

No, he said they "need to figure out a different open source strategy". That is completely different.

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[–] Suoko@feddit.it 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We have plenty of alternatives like Mistral, Gemini, qwen, deepseek...

But none of them is fully open source that you know data they've been trained with, right? Maybe only K2 ?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I thought deepseek was open source. Guess not

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 22 points 3 weeks ago

You can download the model, you do not have the source of the model.

It is similar to releasing a compiled software app as shareware vs publishing your source code.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Just the weights, training it is another story.

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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what kind of admission that is other than they aren't on top anymore.

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sam Altman? The guy who's currently on the wrong side of the dirt for SAing his sister?

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

Wait, what?

[–] xpsking@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, lmao even

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Backing up my Saved page from reddit, I found that Dall-E post from four years ago. It is buck-wild how far all of this has come... in image generators. Text still fundamentally sucks because people keep trying to use an improv partner as an oracle. And its artistic uses are of low value because text was always dead easy to crank out.

And all I though to comment was "generate nude Tayne," about four hours before the American coup.

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, if openai open sources all their models, what value is there left that is unique to openai? Training data? But that is only valuable if they invent a better way to make it into an "AI".

[–] Carl@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Most companies that have open source products make their money in providing support for it to other companies, so theoretically OpenAI could do that (in fact top level AI developers are pretty rare so they could charge way more than other companies do for consulting) but that wouldn't be a hundreds-of-billions-of-dollars business plan because it's much too sensible.

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hosting a model of that size requires ~800GB of VRAM. Even if they release their models, it wouldn't make them obsolete since most people and many companies couldn't host it either way.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 3 weeks ago

OpenAI started as a non-profit, so it could be 100% open and still be truthful to it's original intentions.

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