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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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incompetent half-assing is rarely this morally righteous of an act too, since your one act of barely-competent-enough incompetence is transmuted into endless incompetence by becoming training data/qc feedback

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[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I refuse to mark scooters as motorcycles.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 months ago

thank you for your service

[–] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I roll my eyes every time somebody brags about sticking it to big Corp by messing up captchas.

Your data is discarded if its below an expected level. You're causing exactly 0 inconvenience and wasting your own time unfortunately. There are much better ways to hurt google

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you overestimate their competence my friend

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That kind of data sanitization is just standard practice. You need some level of confidence on your data’s accuracy, and for anything normally distributed, throwing out obvious outliers is a safe assumption.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If you cut the outliers out of a dataset of whom 30% are bullshitters who are skilled and motivated to bullshit, that doesn't magically make the system more accurate it only makes it more precise since bullshitters have been training their whole lives to bullshit in a convincing way (some went to school for it starting at a very young age) and can often present much more authentic than non-bullshitters and honestly it makes me happy that I know big tech thinks the same way you do on this. It is glorious how poorly positioned it makes these much more dangerous bullshitters to respond or anticipate how these systems will naturally decay.

At a certain point, and it doesn't surprise me in the least that people who think rigidly along the lines of statistics and automation don't get this at all, when misinformation is rampant in a system it is often the outliers that are the critical voices of truth.

If you discard outliers because they are outliers and keep doing it you will get a more refined system precisely because it has gotten better at bullshitting and now everybody always jumps on the bandwagon and meaning collapses into byzantine conformism.

I take my schadenfreude where I can get it : )

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

We do get what you mean (extremely condescending and reductive take, if you ask me). I was thinking rigidly along the lines of data engineering, as this is, well, a data engineering problem… There just isn’t 30% of people doing this on Google captchas, and this isn’t a “take”, just a reality of the scale and amount of people interacting with Google products. Have fun all you want, you do this, your data most likely gets thrown out, that’s all.

We’re still talking about image recognition, aren’t we? This feels like a general commentary on how Big Tech sees their customer base, which I don’t disagree with, but in my mind was just another discussion entirely…

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

condescending and reductive

I consider big tech's relationship and valuing of human beings condescending and reductive, so shrugs don't come at me I am the powerless one.

I didn't light trust and decency on fire, excuse me if sometimes I don't extend the grace they refuse to extend to all of us.

There just isn’t 30% of people doing this on Google captchas

Damn, find me something else people are forced to do for no gain to themselves that isn't 30% full of bullshitters, what makes people so honest and hardworking when it comes to captchas?

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

I would love my data to be discarded. Freeloaders!

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can't solve Cloudflare captcha most of the time, so I renewed my accessibility cookie at least once every 3–4 weeks, but they started to last a shorter amount of time. So now I just close the tab and move on.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Did you know the name Cloudflare comes from the ancient french word Cloufleir which was slang for a fart? (a cloud caught fire must be a cloud of methane being the joke).

All that to say that sucks, but honestly you aren't really missing out...

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago

I once heard (likely last month on lemmy) that the tests involve the timing of clicks and a certain amount of wrongness. Too fast and perfect means machine.

So go wild.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

hCAPTCHA is the worst

I can't get though them most of the time. I try to find a YouTube guide but everything I can find is out of date.

[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you the reason why I cannot complete a captcha sometimes?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

No, that would be the barons of late stage capitalism that are responsible for that :)

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

My success rate of those went up after realising I can deliberately make a mistake but unselect a square afterwards.