Two-thirds of Americans are fucking idiots. How depressing.
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I'm pretty sure that was Republican only statistics, at least according to the wording in the text
Ah yes, when you start to think about those people as people, it does start to get harder to say you want to hurt them, doesn't it?
just one-third support separating families or deporting those who arrived as children
Bad news for these guys btw
Very few people have a grasp on immigration law in the first place. I'd imagine most Americans don't understand that if someone was brought into the country without a visa as a child, raised here, and got married to a citizen and had kids they must be deported and are banned from applying for a green card for 10 years (there are appeals to this, but that's how the process stands). Breaking up families like that is nonsensical from a public policy standpoint, so nobody really intuits that's how the system works.
This happened to an old co-worker of mine. His wife was deported after they had been married for awhile and had a kid. It took them something like 6 or 7 years, and tens of thousands of dollars, to get her back to the US, and she almost died in the process. The cartel found out her husband was American and mugged her on her walk home from work. They stabbed her in the neck, barely missing her carotid artery. Their story is crazy af, and still breaks my heart for them, when I think about. Dude, lost out on most of his first daughter's early childhood and almost lost it all because the US thinks it's necessary to punish people that were brought here as children. So stupid.
Thankfully, they're all in the US now and, last I heard, they had another kid and are doing great. :)
Fervently Supporting a thing you wouldn't support if you just gave a little critical thought to the matter feels uniquely American.
Brexit says it's not just America.
Aren't right wing factions gaining ground in most countries now? No policy based off hate will be intellectual.
One thing in common among those factions is Russian funding. Another is support by Russian troll farms. Take out the Putin regime and all those puppets' strings will be cut. All the more reason to support Ukraine.
European countries should be imprisoning any politicians caught taking foreign funding or in-kind support.
And doubly republican.
Willful ignorance is a universal "value". America is just ahead of the curve, at the moment. Counting out other countries is just prejudice.
India with Muslims, Chinese with Uyghurs, Europeans with Muslims, Canadians with First Nations, Denmark/Greenland with natives, Myanmar and Rohingyas, Brazil with Natives. I can keep going
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This reminds me of the UK's shelved(?) plan to detain refugees and deport them to Rwanda. I don't just mean people who have come from Rwanda, I mean everyone, just using Rwanda for people storage. If it wasn't such a dark topic, I'd say the whole thing was slapstick, both in it's original conception and attempted implementation.
It was another act of performative cruelty, devised by another hateful, xenophobic piece of shit who was borrowing from the Trump playbook.
UK’s shelved(?) plan
The UK Conservative Party government managed to send 4 people who cooperated to Rwanda before they lost the elections. It only cost them 700 million pounds.
That's a bargain for smaller government!
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Close enough, welcome back Australia
They are still asking the wrong questions and blissfully ignoring the elephant in the room. If you round up thousands of people there will be logistical problems:
a) you can only deport people to countries which are willing to take them.
b) you'll have to detain them until they can be deported
Which means concentration camps. Ask Americans if they support concentration camps in their country. Because that is what is going to happen.
Yeah that's exactly how the concentration camps happened in Nazi Germany. The initial plan wasn't to start starving and gassing the Jews. It was to round them up and deport them. Turns out you can't practically deport millions of people, so they started murdering them instead.
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concentration camps
Detention facilities. Or whatever bullshit they come up with to make it seem alright.
Word play is a very American Thing.
I'd say it's a very "thing that's done in politics" everywhere.
Well they're already building the camp(s) in Texas. I don't know how anyone who voted for this thought it would go down. It's a bit late to cry "but not like that!".
I mean, we always have in the past. Native Americans, Japanese during wwII, waco
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For the third time, at least.
Hate gets easier the farther removed you are from the object of your hatred.
All want to eat sausage, no-one wants to butcher pig. Or something like that.
Hell, most people actively avoid even seeing how sausage is made.
The vote ratio on your comment speaks volumes.
This just in,
Racist people dumb as shit.
More News at 11
Immigrants made America great, and America needs immigrants to remain great.
America hasn't been great for anyone but rich people for quite some time now. There's certainly worse places to be but there's also a lot of better places regardless of which metric you evaluate that by.
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About one in 10 Americans — and close to 1 in 5 Republicans — said they'd support deporting immigrants who are in the country lawfully.
Lead and microplastics have severely fucked us all up in the head.
don't forget covid fog and the brain decline after repeated infections.
Don't assume lazy-ass Freakonomics just-so stories are true. The causes are ignorance, racism and propaganda.
What do you think increases things like ignorance and racism? You do know what lead does to people, right?
Republicans have primed Americans into thinking illegal immigrants are criminals bringing in crime and drugs into the country. Which is completely fabricated and untrue. However, the Democratic Party have failed to counter message (since they dropped the Dreamers messaging) and instead adopted the right wing on immigration. That's the entire reason we see this contradiction. A genuine counter message would be popular. And it's essential considering that Trump is going to start mass deportations tomorrow, which will quickly mean the beginning of concentration camps for millions of Americans
Even within the polls where deportations have majority support, in the same poll, there is much more support for legalization.
https://www.vox.com/policy/368889/immigration-border-polls-election-2024-trump-harris
https://news.gallup.com/poll/647123/sharply-americans-curb-immigration.aspx
TWO-THIRDS?? Where did they do their sampling, Cracker Barrel?
It's a carefully crafted push poll.
If only. That comes out to nearly all Republicans and around a third of Democrats. I could totally see 30% of Democrats being in favor of mass deportations.
First line of the article
Most U.S. adults (9 in 10 Republicans and close to half of Democrats) say they support mass deportations of immigrants living in the country illegally
You gotta remember that the "They're taking our jobs" and "They're getting our tax money" propaganda has been pervasive in America for decades. And they don't, actively or passively, want to know about the realities of the lives of undocumented immigrants in the US. They don't want to read the studies or know the data. Feelings don't care about the facts.
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