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[–] blame@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

i havent looked but i assume this post is on /r/tiktokcringe and redditors are “pointing out” that she shouldnt have dropped out of college and shouldnt have had a kid

other redditors are suggesting she is a paid actor from the CPC

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, for us, I think we need to acknowledge that we've been in this place for a long time, we've been through the deprogramming process, and we shouldn't take it lightly that people are actually learning things through this little adventure to RedNote. The people at the base of the mountain could not even see it, meanwhile we've been claiming it for years now, many of us for much longer, and I only started unlearning things around 5 years ago.

The thing that I recall before reeducating myself is that China never entered my mind. China was not something that I ever really thought about, until there was some news story about it. I think for many of these people, it's the same. China isn't even background noise. It only exists when the news media reports on it.

So even learning basic facts about China blows their mind. The fact that they're learning these basic facts directly from Chinese people, makes it irrefutable. The Chinese people on the app are so welcoming and friendly and funny that it's also disarming, making the experiences they share that much more acceptable.

This moment will eventually pass. The novelty will likely wear off and new people coming to the platform might drop off. I think for the people who are engaging now, though, this is a massive and collective deprogramming moment.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think Chinese media could play a big role in promoting more consciousness of what's going on over there. Americans proved that they're capable of watching foreign films with all the Parasite craze 5 years ago, I think it would serve this group that is learning that China is cool to get involved with the arts and watch Chinese films, listen to their music, etc. etc. Those are memorable things that should help further break down the big cognitive wall that people have that keeps them from engaging with China as a really existing country and not a boogeyman.

[–] themostannoyingmusicproducerofalltime@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think Chinese media could play a big role in promoting more consciousness of what's going on over there.

I think in the short term yeah but I wouldn't be surprised if we ban Chinese media eventually for that reason.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't imagine a huge number of people are watching Chinese stuff legally. It might be more of a problem for music, but they're never gonna stop people from torrenting and going to the movie streaming sites that are in that perpetual game of whack-a-mole.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 6 points 21 hours ago

I dunno if something could get parasite levels of traction with normies if you could only watch it illegally tbf

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Funny, since this started, I had this thought in the back of my mind that I should look up some Chinese pop music or something. Especially since I've been seeing some small time American music artists appear on the platform, with many positive comments from the Chinese netizens. I've also seen threads asking to share music.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I made a thread on RedNote and I have so much music to listen to now! @NPa@hexbear.net, @Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml, thanks for the suggestions as well!

[–] NPa@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hiperson is great, they're from Chengdu, its kinda indie-rocky

Wang Wen is from Dalian, more post-punk vibes, Invisible City is a great album

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 5 points 22 hours ago

Oooo, I like the sound of Hiperson, they have a really good sound!

[–] NPa@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Also cantopop is great, but I don't know any bands by name

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Floruitshow福禄寿 is my favorite Chinese group. They split up and two of the three sisters formed a new band called DOUDOU, the live album is really good.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 11 points 21 hours ago

God damn, that’s visceral

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

i used to follow a tiktoker who described theory as nothing more than a book club for intellectuals and saw him on rednote; it gives me hope.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I was younger I had a major fascination with Chinese history and philosophy but totally bought the US line that the modern state was authoritarian, oppressive, and expansionist (#FreeTibet 🤦‍♂️)

Been wondering what might've gone differently if I went outside my bubble and actually talked to folks and put in the effort to learn Mandarin, but I guess now's as good a time as any to start.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'll give that a listen, thanks for sharing!

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 20 hours ago

That's episode 21 of the series btw.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago

I hope there are many more people coming to this realization.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago
[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is there a way to watch this video without a Tik Tok account? Every time I try to click play it just tries to send me to the Google play account to download Tik Tok (from my android phone).

[–] Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

yt-dlp URL -o filename.mp4

No need to deal with their website's shenanigans.

[–] Sphere@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Open the desktop version of the page. Interface gets clunkier but it will let you watch the video.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 4 points 22 hours ago

Oh hey it worked, thanks!

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

If you use Firefox try the "redirect to tiknot" extension. If it doesn't work refresh the page.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

It's wonderful

[–] Clippy@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hey you sent a link with a tracker embedded within the shortened URL, here is the link without the tracker

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago