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[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Not too surprising they didn’t change much. The switch was a huge hit so fixing things like the joycons, adding a stand, etc. was the way to go.

My guess (hope) is that the only new titles exclusive to the switch 2 are ones that the original switch wouldn’t have the processor strength to play and that they won’t arbitrarily wall them but we’ll see.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Nintendo switch came out in early 2017, and it really wasn't all that powerful then. It's 8 years later, and it really shows. I don't think they should make new games for the Switch. If developers have to consider the original Switch, the games will suffer. It had a good run, and a good library. But it's time for the original switch to retire.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Precisely this. Consideration for the original Switch is exactly how the Series S is causing problems for games on the Series X and PS5. Yes, a cheaper entry is great for gamers who can't afford but dragging the potential down is a recipe for hamstringing the newer hardware.

[–] PirateKingLuffy@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately games have been struggling on the Switch’s hardware for a couple years. There were a few parts of the newest Pokémon game that felt like a slideshow presentation.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh I don’t want them to hold back new games performance just for the OG switch, that was pretty underpowered even when it came out. I’m hoping the switch 2 gets a good upgrade in the area since it’s needed.

More for indie games and things like that was what I was thinking.

[–] PirateKingLuffy@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

That would be nice! Hopefully I would be easy for devs to do both.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pokémon

Is that still scarlet and violet? Because if so, I don't think that was a problem with the switch.

[–] PirateKingLuffy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s the one I am thinking of yeah! Was it just a case of dog water optimization?

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

I think so, there isn't much else that can explain the classroom scene where half the class are all playing the same goofy animation at 5 frames per second, mostly in sync. It would have looked better to have them not moving at all, so at least some of the jank was a stylistic choice on gamefreak's part.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Like, hyrule warriors lagging at ulti in splitscreen mode, you mean? They already released that for switch 1 🤣

Now we can finally play it lag free 🥳well, hopefully 🤪

Or we just continue to play lag free on steam deck 😜

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I personally dont get why they went with Nvidia again, they make cheap mobile processors and I doubt this one will be any different. Imo they should have gone with a low end AMD APU based on Ryzen 9000.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Who would switch from arm to x86 when the whole market is moving into arm direction?

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They could have implemented a simple compatibility layer to play Switch 1 games

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

And rewrite the whole OS from scratch instead of using a battle-tested codebase existing since GBA?

[–] Willie@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's basically the same. And it makes sense, it seems that's what people want. But also, can Nintendo ever go back to the old ways? If ever they make something that isn't a Switch, they'd have to develop two pieces of hardware, since they're likely going to want both a home console and a handheld device. I think things might be like this forever.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Being Nintendo the fact that it is basically the same is the actual surprise.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the nes->snes, gb->gbc->GBA, ds->3ds, and wii->WiiU were all pretty similar advancements.

In all of those except nes->snes you had backwards compatability, and the wii->WiiU had hardware backwards compatibility (which the switch 2 doesn't, at least for controllers).

[–] Exec@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Most of those "sequels" had something new and innovative and not just a spec bump. The Switch 2 does not really have anything so far

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You are right that it is more of just a spec bump, but given the warning that not all switch games may be compatible, I think the controllers are going to have different sensors (some have speculated a more mouse-like feature).

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was going down the same path, but don’t forget about LABO requiring not just the same sensors, but also the same physical size screen and controllers. So even if everything else was backwards compatible, they’d have to include that text for that game series alone.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

That's a good catch!

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My switch 1 is gathering dust, mostly because of the awful controllers. Looks like they made the controllers bigger, and the magnetic slide looks much better than the switch1. I hope they significantly reduced the stick drift problem. I hope they allow 3rd party controllers to turn on the device.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I always play with pro controller or powerA gamrcube wireless

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I've had every Nintendo console since the gbc and suspect I'll eventually get this too, but they've got an uphill battle vs the steamdeck for me. Really going to depend on the first party games.

[–] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

What, do you think Nintendo is made of money?

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sadly, I don't see any amount of effort being put into longevity. That's far too consumer-friendly from any of the big 3

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Credit where it’s due, switch is pretty durable except joy-cons, and they are pretty easy to repair yourself

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I shouldn't have to repair their crappy self-inflicted stick drift though. This easy to repair argument is like saying "It's okay, the giant shit on your kitchen floor hasn't dried so it's easy to mop up."

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Should have called it the Nintendo Top.

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

Nintendo Dom

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I was kinda hoping for a smaller console, not a larger one.