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On the incredibly infinitesimally insignificantly microscopically small chance that Trump somehow accidentally but actually stops the genocide, I won't bother looking that gift horse in the mouth. I'll just be thankful and move on to the litany of other problems.
Its the same with RFK wanting to legalise psychedelics in some way. Thats something that is in fact good, but that doesn't compensate for him being not suited for this position.
Are they still pretending they don’t support him? I thought for sure they’d all have given that ruse up the moment he won.
Nah, they can go their entire lives pretending not to be dictator simps. When it comes to tankies, it was never about the communism and always about the tanks treading over the plebs.
They're not actually going to stop, the news will just stop reporting about it, because we've got distraction-in-chief on twitter again daring North Korea to nuke us.
I remember 2017.
He doesn’t even have to do it. He can just lie and they’ll believe it.
I'm am "surprised" how confident they are in that prediction.
".ml" as in the self help group for solvent abusers?
Well hey, one of the reasons one might stop a genocide is because it’s been accomplished. So they may end up being technically correct on the first part.
Trump stops the genocide
OOP must have been fucking zooted out of his mind, no sensible Arab or person in general believes trump is going to solve anything; in fact, he will make everything so much worse.
At this point, i wish the best for our brothers and sisters in Palestine, and i hope they live to see the end of the genocide. It's a lose-lose situation for them either way, but one way is clearly worse.
Unfortunately there was a significant bloc of Arab-American (and just anti-genocide) US voters that thought trump cared about them and their plight. It was shortly after the election when he started hiring the most genocidal cabinet that they said, “hey!” There were a lot of articles about it. How people fell for that I don’t understand—well, I do, but I wish I didn’t. People can’t think two feet in front of their faces. They got on the whole “genocide Joe” train—which, let’s be real, this admin is very much bloody-handed. But that does not make the other option better. People cannot grasp nuance whatsoever. It’s an all-encompassing problem that manifested in this way this time.
us Arabs have never been smart at politics. I'm very mixed on this issue.. I hate Kamala/biden's guts, due to them trying to act morally superior, yet supporting genocide. But i have literally no standards or expectations from that moron, trump. If i was american, i'd vote for kamala begrudgingly.
Often when this stuff happens i like to think of two quotes that perfectly describes arabic politics, lmao (both were said by arabs btw, which makes it even funnier):
"When the evil of the west is combined with the stupidity of arabs, nations fall"
"If you give Muslims 2 countries, they would bring Sharia to the first then immigrate to the second."
So they’re admitting that Trump, a private citizen, interfered with US foreign policy, which is yet another crime.
Just like when Nixon sabotaged the Paris peace talks, or when Reagan betrayed the American hostages in Iran.
People need to remember Netanyahu wants Trump in power, so is going to make decisions that are good optics for Trump when he can. He similarly made decisions that are bad optics for Biden on purpose. While Biden did himself no favors, never forget Netanyahu is the one who put him in that position.
It's so odd that the time line for this surge of fighting happened right through the election cycle. You know, it's almost like if you were to coordinate political strategies with your allies you could find advantageous opportunities that serve each other to the disadvantage of your opponents. Except, that could never happen, right? Right? As if what appeared to be genocide was just sloppy blitzkrieg trying to cause as much damage as possible in a limited time frame.
Ok, I'll shut up now, I wouldn't want people to think those with unlimited resources are capable of high level strategic warfare.
Does it count as ending the genocide if he helps Israel kill all the remaining Palestinians so there are none left to genocide? 🤔
End it, not put a stop to.
Well, it ended, didn't it?
Not yet
Israel has intensified its military operations before a ceasefire expected to take effect on Sunday, launching repeated attacks on Gaza City. The Israeli military said it bombed about 50 sites throughout the Gaza Strip over the past 24 hours.
This fits the bill with the actual bad faith arguments that tankies make constantly.
I would like to remind people this conflict is decades and decades old, it's not a democrat thing, or republican thing. America has supported this genocide for over 50 years. The democrats and republicans of now will surely, if unfortunately, continue.
While true, I'm over 50 and have never seen such mechanized destruction in my lifetime. And yes, now I'm woke to the fact that my country has supported this shit the whole time.
I'm just going to link this article:
https://newrepublic.com/article/172324/its-settled-reagan-campaign-delayed-release-iranian-hostages
Henry Kissinger did something similar to delay the end of the Vietnam war, in order to get Nixon elected.
...are we counting "no Palestinians left" as the end of the genocide? 😬
The fact that some people voted for a basically open fascist because of something happening outside of their country is fucking wild
I just hate when they say one imperialist colonizer is bad (Israel) yet another good (Russia). Fucking hypocrites don't actually care about the suffering - just the political wedge they can use.
I haven't ever even broached Tibet because I don't think I could stomach witnessing the ensuing trainwreck of logic.
It's just so incredibly intellectually disingenuous. I got in it with one at one point (big mistake on my part) saying that no country or system is perfect, and a meaningful indicator evidencing critical thought is the capacity to criticize your own system. What, in their mind, were the top issues with China?
Ok. I'm talking to a rational actor. Lol.
I've had so many CCP bootlickers send me so many headlines about how much people in China claim to love the CCP. Tankies pretend they don't understand that a 99% approval rating is less indicative of a populace that adores their government, and more indicative of a populace afraid to criticize it.
Part of what got me banned over there was pointing out that Adolf Hitler got 99.3% of the votes in his last election, and asking whether they reckon that was because he was just such a great leader
1 is a rational complaint of a society that pretends it’s not State Capitalist
Tankies and trump supporters:
regressive fascist fuckface supporters and tankies all along:
