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Three things are no secret: 1) Elon Musk benefits more than any other individual from Tesla’s success, 2) Elon Musk has gotten extremely involved in political matters (emphasis on “extremely”), and 3) many people won’t buy Tesla products because of those first two facts.

New research from JW Surety Bonds finds that 1 out of 4 Americans “avoid Tesla’s technology due to their opinions on Elon Musk.” That’s a full quarter of the US public that won’t consider great electric vehicles, including the best selling vehicle in the world, because of Musk’s highly abnormal involvement in US politics.

Before we get to more of the research, it should also be noted that Musk has been getting more and more involved, including in highly abnormal and extremely right-wing ways, in European politics — in the UK, Italy, Germany, and other major auto markets. Without a doubt, this is starting to impact consumer behavior in Europe as well.

I can’t think of anything else as significant in consumer product sales. Yes, there are some other highly politically engaged business people, but they aren’t so directly involved or tied to significant mass-market products. (I’m not counting the MyPillow guy, for example.) There are founders and CEOs of major corporations who are known political actors, but not so openly and loudly that they draw widely significant scrutiny or tarnish the brand they represent.

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[–] admin@lemmyusa.com 8 points 10 months ago (10 children)

25% of 800 U.S. citizens surveyed is not indicative of the entire country. Not only that, the original study release here (as far as I could find) doesn't state how or where the survey was conducted.

A survey done in California would be wildly different than one done in Mississippi. That article and this post are ethically dishonest, and the study proves absolutely nothing.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey guys, I found the Tesla fanboy who never took a statistics class.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Other 75% just don't want to spend that much fucking money on a car.

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Finna go to Mexico just to import a BYD or Nio

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah I've been pissed off with elon since he turned project redwood into a cash grab.. $37500 is a goddamn ripoff.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I most definitely don't like musk, don't want to support him, and don't have the money to get a car, but the biggest reason I won't even consider getting one is because of their abhorrent safety.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’ve posted this before, but one of my favorite butterfly effect stories is that the famously under-regulating, and ethically dubious Elaine Chao let Tesla implement new driver control methods while she was Transportation Secretary, and a few years later the same sketchy controls helped to kill her sister (in addition to drunk driving).

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You could've shutted the fuck up and profited

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And Donald Trump could have invested his inheritance and made more money than god, yet look at them now?

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[–] Elkot@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah fuck this guy

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also include Tesla solar on that list. If Tesla can access my cars data and cameras at will, what is keeping them out of my power system?

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[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I'm trying not to buy a new car in general. If my car (ICE) got totaled, I'd consider a used Model 3 or Y because you can't really beat the bang for your buck, but I'd rather hold out for a used Rivian R2 or R3 in a few years.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Due to the way the world is developing .... I never did buy new vehicles before, but now I'm convinced, I will never ever buy any new vehicle ... gas or electric.

I'll drive a used dumpy rusted out car or truck until I can't any more.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

100%. New vehicles have so many stupid knickknacks to pretend to be "luxury" that make them break easily and difficult+expensive to fix.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That and the tracking/data collection. My car is a 2007 (pre-black box) and I repaired nearly everything on it to ensure it will keep functioning soundly. I see no personal value in purchasing a new car at the moment even though I can afford it. I am happy to save that money. Another reason is that anything ICE is insanely complicated and EVs still seem to be finding standards that I am still learning about. Even choosing EV, they still track/collect.

There are a couple vehicles that I love the shapes of and I am sure they'd be fun, but I can't readily accept the dystopian mechanism underneath the gleaming hood.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I noticed a cybertruck downstairs when I was vaping on a bench. I wrote the word “stupid” on a sticky note when I got back to my desk. If the thing is still there when I go to lunch in 30m, I’ll put it on the driver-side window.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Please don’t do this. It will have the opposite effect of what you want.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Also the car is literally covered in cameras that are always on, and the owner is likely to be petty.

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