I'm looking for an EV with the NACS (Tesla) charger and that will do V2H (reverse) charging. I don't know if any of these exist yet.
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If the car has a J1772 (it does) and supports V2H you're golden as J1772 is J3400 (NACS) and a passive adapter you can get for like 20 bucks will ensure you can use it anywhere
Even getting something with J3400 on it in the near future you'll likely end up wanting an adapter for all the machines on legacy hardware, anyway
Beware superchargers, they are only 400 volt at the moment. Right now, any 800+ volt EV will charge worse on Tesla superchargers than on 800 volt CCS chargers.
That will probably improve but it'll take years.
The 2025 Kia‘s EV6’s (and other models?) have the NACS and AFAIK, all EV6 models can do V2H. Some require an adapter and others have outlets in the base of the rear seats.
Also in January there is supposedly an update coming to enable compatibility with the supercharger network.
By V2H I mean I want to power my entire house, not just a couple outlets.
I'm looking for a sedan, and yeah, the Ionic is near the top of my list. Probably looking around this time next year (because the end of the year tends to be the best deals).
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The first point rings true, but the other points seem like cherry picking.
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Unreliability: https://www.kbb.com/car-news/consumer-reports-subaru-lexus-make-the-most-reliable-cars/ Tesla is below average on reliability, but unreliable Mainstays like Jeep still are lower. Other lists put Tesla in the middle of the pack, Cybertruck nonwithstanding. Still not great.
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Fatal accident rate: This comment explains why: "As for fatalities, neither the article nor the comments I've seen so far have raised the obvious points of mis-use or over-reliance on automated driving systems or the shock (as in a famous case in Texas a couple of years ago) of an inexperienced driver given access to, let's say a Model S Plaid, stepping on the accelerator and being thrown back against the seat and into a state of shock such that the foot remains pressed on the accelerator while the car runs off the road."
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Spying: Unfortunately, every single brand spies on you and your driving, as shown in https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/
As far as your points about the fatal accidents stuff goes - maybe Tesla shouldn't call it Full Self Driving if it can't fully self-drive without killing you, and maybe their cars shouldn't go 0-60 in 2 seconds by default, if that proves too difficult for inexperienced drivers to control.
"Reliability" is a difficult metric. It can cover everything from faulty seals on a door to a transmission that fails in 5k miles. One thing to search for when you're trying to see how reliable cars are is technical service bulletins (TSBs); the more a given make/model has, the more likely it is that there will be significant reliability issues.
IIRC most electric cars from newer companies have reliability issues, while electric vehicles from established brands tend to be more reliable.
As far as privacy goes, unless you buy with cash, you aren't going to have a lot of choice to turn off telemetry. And you might lose parts of the dashboard (e.g., the entire infotainment system) if you pull fuses.
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In case anybody has to be talked out of spending that much money on a car.
My folks have a tesla, and it's ok (from a passenger perspective). Really put off by the console UX.
I'm considering the F150 lightning, and looking for any input on that idea?
As for why Ford instead of Rivian? I try to buy union for big ticket items like this.
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My wife and I are really happy with our Chevy Bolt EV.
It still kills me that GM discontinued it, what a dumb move.
It's coming back next year
Awesome!
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I also have a Chevy Bolt and I love it. I wouldn't buy any current GM EV because they decided to remove Android Auto and Apple Carplay, but if they ever change their mind and put those back, I would be happy to buy another one. Used models are very reasonably priced and potentially eligible for a tax rebate. You could easily get one for under $20k.
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