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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 27 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Don't chew your food with your mouth open, holy shit Michael where are your manners

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

yeah he's known for being terrible at table manners

[–] SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's bothered me literally every time I've seen this.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

When your teeth are too perfect to hide.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 155 points 14 hours ago

Don't get me wrong. After all of this high drama, it would be extremely funny if Luigi Mangione can prove he was in Rochester on the day of the shooting.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 204 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

There's a part of me hoping dudes going along with it to aid in the others escape, solidarity style, and he's got some iron clad alibi his lawyer plans to deliver in the courtroom that means they can't convict him.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 11 points 6 hours ago

Luigi is player 2.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 71 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Plot twist: this was a group act all along. The murderer flees the scene. Once the image gets released, a second actor shows up at a McDonald's, a public space. Gets reported to authorities by a third actor, who does actually work at McD's. They waste the authorities' time, and the second actor, having commited no crimes, proves his innocence. The actual murderer, in the meantime, disappears for real, benefiting of the time wasted by the authorities. Second actor represents something, and gets some cool pics getting "arrested"

Idk, the idea just came to mind seeing the comment above

[–] superkret@feddit.org 32 points 9 hours ago

the second actor, having commited no crimes, proves his innocence.

Here's the flaw in your plan: This doesn't actually work in the US.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

if luigi hypothetically did participate in this plan, wouldn’t that itself be a crime (accessory to murder)? so they could still get him for something if they found out about the plan, but probably for less than if he did actually kill someone. i’m not a lawyer though so i don’t really know how this stuff works or if it would even be feasible to prosecute him for any of those things (if he did them)

[–] MacAttak8@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah I think they could still charge anyone who was in on the plan with conspiracy to commit murder whether they pulled the trigger or not.

Edit: at minimum

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They'd have to prove there was a plan.

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[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 10 hours ago

How easy would that be to prove though?

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[–] ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 118 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I want this timeline so damn bad

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 26 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

In which timeline are you? Harambe alive or Harambe dead?

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 28 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I never put my dick away for Harambe. Does not matter what HR has to say about it.

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

HR stands from Harambe Repressors.

[–] HowAbt2morrow 3 points 8 hours ago

As long as you keep the cheese scarf in check, HR is typically ok with it.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 67 points 14 hours ago

Next time they pick a patsy for a guy with distinctive eyebrows they should find a guy with the same eyebrows.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 93 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

It really is an absolutely bizaare story. Why would he walk around with the murder weapon like that?

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

It looks like you couldn't decide on "bizarre" or "bazaar" so you split the difference. Bazaar is a market place, bizarre is weird. Just fyi, not trying to be a dick about it happy holidays love you

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

Well that added fuck all to conversation.

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[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 53 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

See, I think one of three scenarios might have happened:

  • Luigi didn't do it. He was framed and set up because out of the hundreds of prank tips, this guy looked "close enough."
  • Luigi did it, but the evidence was made up to make the case solid and the police look competent. Luigi wasn't stupid, but he's boned anyway.
  • Luigi did it, and he really was that stupid.

As a writer, one of the aggravating tropes we have to follow is, "make the story believable," when reality sometimes doesn't align with "a good story." Some criminals are really that stupid, and some armchair theory, based on decades of movies, books, and TV shows, you expect "hey, this is what they SHOULD have done is." And they didn't. It's like when a chessmaster has to watch complete amateurs play chess. "Obvious strategies" are ignored, and basically both players are just not thinking past their last move.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 hours ago

Luigi did it, and he really was that stupid.

Given that he was valedictorian at his school, I find that unlikely to be the option.

I think you're missing a 4th option:

  • He did it, and believed it not worth the anxiety/suffering of living the rest of his life as a wanted man, so did what he could to get away from the immediate scene but ultimately turn himself in so to speak.

And there are almost certainly more nuanced options out there.

A slight variation on your second scenario is parallel construction.
I don't know if Luigi's the shooter or not, but if he did it, there's a decent chance whatever is presented as evidence has absolutely nothing to do with how they actually caught the guy.

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

The thing is, whoever did it was pretty smart about much of the crime, which is why the story of how Luigi was caught and what they say he had on is person seems so odd relative to the behavior the previous week.

If it was Luigi, he was pretty disciplined and smart before, during and immediately after the crime with the only leak being showing his face at the hostel (which he may have been required to do when he gave them ID).

If he did do it and really had all that evidence on him, maybe he wanted to get caught? It seems crazy that anyone would hang onto a 3d printed gun when it would be pretty easy to destroy and dispose of it in multiple pieces and locations.

I’ve said it before but I truly believe that Luigi would still be free if he had plucked his eyebrows, regardless of whether he did it.

Edit to add, maybe he thought he’d get shot or captured at the scene and didn’t think too far beyond the immediate getaway? And with the stress of his picture up all over the news and social media, he kinda wasn’t thinking straight?

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

To be precise, we have no idea what evidence was collected or what it shows. All we know is what the cops said they found, and cops are notorious liars. Just ask Young Thug or Karen Read.

We can assume some of what the cops say is true, but the challenge is that we have no idea which parts.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It seems quite plausible that when they found the backpack it also had the gun and "manifesto" (stupid to call it that but it pushes their agenda) and whatever else in it, but they kept quiet about it. They only revealed that they had found the backpack. That would allow them to arrest anyone and then claim that he had the gun, etc. on him when they found him. They'll need to prove that those things weren't in the backpack they found.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

They'll need to prove that those things weren't in the backpack they found.

I really doubt it. Cops barely have to prove shit when they're arresting someone for weed. In something this high profile and important for the establishment I doubt there will be much proof at all.

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[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 70 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

I don’t trust the police so I don’t assume the items they claim that they got off of Luigi are legit. We’ll see what his lawyer says in court. We also don’t know if the gun that they say he had was the murder weapon. Have they done ballistics analysis or anything yet?

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Imagine what happens if someone with a charming smile and strong eyebrow game shoots another health care CEO.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 15 points 11 hours ago

God willing

Whoever killed Brian Thompson really did announce a safari on these parasites

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[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

This is actually the beginning of the plot to Sonic Adventure 2. We should be seeing Luigi snowboarding down the streets of San Francisco any day now.

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 42 points 16 hours ago
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