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Just heard on the news today that Luigi is probably going to spend a lot of time in the hole because I guess people want to kill him. And that makes him safer, how? He's already in a prison cell it doesn't get more locked down than that.

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[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

Wait ‘til you find out slavery is still legal 😳

[–] edge@hexbear.net 31 points 15 hours ago

because I guess people want to kill him

None of the people that want to kill him are his fellow prisoners. Solitary probably just makes it easier for them to do it.

The real reason is of course to fuck him up in every way they can.

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 22 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Free and good USA still uses solitary confinment.

Authoritarian and bad Soviet Union forbade the use of handcuffs in prisons.

From От Тюрем к Воспитательным Учреждениям (Ot Tiorem k Vospitatelnim Utchrochdeniam) [From Prisons to Educational Institutions]

«для действительного осуществления исправительно-трудовой политики режим в местах заключения должен быть лишен всяких признаков мучительства, отнюдь не допуская применения физического воздействия: кандалов, наручников, карцера, строго-одиночного заключения, лишения пищи, свиданий заключенных с их посетителями через решотку».

DEEPL:

"for the effective implementation of the correctional labour policy, the regime in places of detention must be devoid of any signs of torture, by no means allowing the use of physical force: shackles, handcuffs, punishment cells, strictly solitary confinement, deprivation of food, visits of prisoners with their visitors through the bars".

Google Translate:

“for the true implementation of correctional labor policy, the regime in places of detention must be devoid of any signs of torture, not allowing the use of physical force: shackles, handcuffs, punishment cells, strict solitary confinement, deprivation of food, meetings between prisoners and their visitors through bars.”

 

I still want a full english translation of this book

[–] Des@hexbear.net 46 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

they really ramp it up by prohibiting books or other media. that's basically the next level of solitary, because there has to be further layers of punishment built in. that and the fact you only get flavorless "nutriloaf" aka bread and water, modern form.

so just a featureless room with only your mind to occupy you for possibly a lifetime, or long stretches (weeks, months) if being used as a punishment. and if you lose it they just beat the shit out of you and possibly tie you down in a restraint chair.

i can see how people lose it just to create a sense of time by fighting with the guards

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 30 points 16 hours ago

i can see how people lose it just to create a sense of time by fighting with the guards

Fucking heartbreaking. Honestly I don't even wish it on my enemies the capitalists because I at least have a shred of empathy.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 41 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah it's literally torture.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I know it's a no shit moment, but you got fucking Anders Breivik who mass murdered children chilling out in a dorm room with a ps5 then you got Luigi who's going to spend years starved to death in solitary for taking out what should be considered a valid military target.

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 25 points 17 hours ago

Last I heard he still had a PS2 and wanted a PS3 because he was sick of playing Rayman

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 11 points 14 hours ago

Barbarism is the point

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 31 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

My brother was in for unarmed robbery, spent over a third of 6 year sentence in the hole. I was already disgusted with our prison system but after having experience with it....barbaric doesn't even come close.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Jesús Christ. What was he like when he came out? That shit sounds absolutely traumatizing, and for unarmed robbery. wtf.

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

He was very much on the spectrum and I know it messed with him in weird ways. He was way more insular and after a few months out for some reason he decided his family was the cause of all his problems and basically never talked to us again.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 16 points 15 hours ago

That’s sad AF man. Sorry to hear.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Six years for unarmed robbery? visible-disgust

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't want to say public defenders are worthless, its a really important job, but his was entirely unhelpful. And he made the number one mistake of getting arrested in the US, he was poor. Guess he was lucky he didn't make the other major mistake, being born anything other than white.

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 9 points 13 hours ago

The ones that actually try are overwhelmed by a broken system designed not to investigate or protect, but to extract plea deals.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

From watching a lot of prison documentaries in my younger years: it absolutely does get more locked down than that. There's a lot of time in which the cells are just unlocked and inmates can wander around and play cards and shit. Even in high security bad murder guy prison.

Solitary confinement is torture, multiple studies and just having empathy have proven that multiple times.

I don't think torturing someone to protect them from being stabbed is a good idea but technically it does the job.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

From watching a lot of prison documentaries in my younger years: it absolutely does get more locked down than that. There's a lot of time in which the cells are just unlocked and inmates can wander around and play cards and shit. Even in high security bad murder guy prison.

I'm used to hearing stories about prisons being on lockdown all the time and people being confined to their cells so I didn't know.

Solitary confinement is torture, multiple studies and just having empathy have proven that multiple times.

I don't think torturing someone to protect them from being stabbed is a good idea but technically it does the job.

It's fucking evil is what it is. Two summers ago I was at a rehab function and there were prison abolitionists there getting people to sign a petition to end solitary in my city and I don't think it ever passed.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah they are on lockdown every time someone breaks the rules basically so yes, they spend a lot of time in the cells. I have to be careful because the brain worms in prison docs are deep but it seems like all a coordinated effort needs is a few minutes to get someone stabbed. Hand signals and Morse code to communicate during lockdown is common.

I've not been to prison and am fully willing to accept I've been fed fiction from these documentaries. Not sure why but when i was like 21 i would just hit the bong and watch hours of that shit

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago

Not sure why but when i was like 21 i would just hit the bong and watch hours of that shit

Bruh, I think the answer to why is obvious

[–] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

People want to kill him??? Wtf

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 19 points 13 hours ago

Probably another lie from the police, most likely it's the absolute opposite they don't want to see the prisoners treat him like a hero

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Its not about people wanting to kill him, they want the isolation to break him