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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 29 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

This makes me believe it really wasn't him. If he actually wrote a manifesto, he'd have declared himself guilty, taken credit, and done a speech about how he was now a martyr for the cause.

If he's sticking to his story, then I believe him. They couldn't find the real killer so they just went with whoever "fit the description", as per usual.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 2 points 46 minutes ago

I mean, if he can away with it while not undermining his original intentions, why not do it?

There's various ways he could go unpunished that would prevent a retrial and so he'd then be set up to be influential in some kind of healthcare reform.

Heavy on the cope though.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 hours ago

That doesn't explain why he keeps mogging the camera, or what he yells to the journalist in that one video.

I don't know if it's him, but I think whoever it is, is just following their lawyer's advice, not trying to be a martyr

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 97 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Its fucked up the news is acting like Sandy Hook wasn't a decade ago. All this guy is accused of is shooting a CEO.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 27 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe if it happens enough, we can normalize billionaire CEO murder as well.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago

CEO or not, billionaires gotta go

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 32 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

The problem here is the frequency of the crimes. If CEOs were being shot on a weekly to bi weekly average in groups of 3 or more, this crime would become one of the many others the American media wash over.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Indeed, the powerful would be left on their own like they left our children on their own. Only unlike our kids, they could do something about it....

The billionaires would be totally "scrooged", better share the wealth assholes. A poor man, isn't a murdered man.

cackle

Well, I can dream....

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like a challenge

[–] Zenjal@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We've come a long way with fun trends. Planking, owling, cat breading, an now CEOing, what a time to live in

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 hours ago

They got Luigi'd!

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

pretty sure the affect on stonks would make congress address it differently

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 45 points 13 hours ago

Sandy hook was instead normalized, and happens multiple times over across the nation annually. Pew pew ‘muricuh

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 240 points 17 hours ago (10 children)

Speaking to CBS, the BBC's US partner, on Sunday, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said that the online rhetoric has been "extraordinarily alarming".

"It speaks of what is really bubbling here in this country," he said. "And unfortunately we see that manifested in violence, the domestic violent extremism that exists."

Did he care about the domestic violent extremism before it started to affect the wealthy? What about the domestic terrorists who go after the queer community, POC communities, women, doctors providing reproductive healthcare...the list goes on.

Violent extremism isn't new here. It's just that this one affects people with power.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If someone would say this shit on the news in real time, I might actually watch it. But it's all so scripted and tame I can't bring myself to care.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 59 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

You’ve got far right militias blowing up America’s electric grid infrastructure, threatening politicians, having standoffs on federal property, and patrolling hurricane impacted areas trying to capture federal employees that are there helping, and I’ve never heard those people referred to as terrorists.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

Because they're only making the poor unhappy.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

Did he care about the domestic violent extremism before it started to affect the wealthy?

No, not at all. They're only mad because for the first time, the elite feel mortal.

You ever heard of the "less dead", well, Brian Thompson is "more dead"

And for those who haven't "Less Dead" is a saying used to describe people who's deaths the police don't look into because they're "not important enough"

Many serial killers get away with their crimes simply because they're smart enough to only kill those who would be deemed "less dead"

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 78 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (5 children)

Yeah, the rules of society say they won and they think all the losers beneath them just have to accept it. The social order and status quo are great for them. That something would violate it is extremely disturbing to them and provokes an emotional response.

I think that's why they seem to be so clumsily overreacting to the murder. Maybe it's working in segments of the population I don't see, but everyone in my social network is either outright happy it happened or at least get why it happened. Some will have perfunctory "murder is wrong" statements, but the thrust is about what a corrupt and evil business health insurance is. That's all the way up to the boomers and crosses political boundaries.

Things like the perp walk, excessive charges, and corporate comedy pretending everyone just thinks Mangione is a bad guy just highlights the us vs. them of class war rather than trying to somehow quell or redirect the bubbling unrest. I think they're doing this because their peers and masters are emotionally demanding a visible and recognizable show of power and obedience. If they knew what was good for them they'd be triple-timing it to make some token effort to reform the system, but even a token effort in response to the killing of a rich person would infuriate them, so clumsy performances it is.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 35 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

When my usually "civil" boomer dad said he gets why he did it and wasn't outright condemning him, I knew the ruling class wasn't in control of the narrative as per usual this time.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 32 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

My 75 year old Canadian aunt laughed when I showed her this

Everyone hates these people except the people who want to be these people.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 22 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm actually rather impressed that so many people get what's actually happening here. I don't know if it'll ultimately amount to anything, but it shows that it is actually possible to get through to people sometimes. It's a shame that no avenue but violence has been left to us to do so.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I think most people have known about the situation for years. Apathy isn't a result of disinterest or lack of care, it's a result of lack of agency and lack of hope. Now both of those are slightly more on the table.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

By making a big show of this arrest, they've ensured that what they don't want to happen will happen.

They will share out of fear.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 93 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The terrorism "charges" are laughably flimsy and clearly contrived. Trumped Up, you might say.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 8 hours ago

The terrorism charge is absolutely the dumbest thing they did. Now it's on them to prove it was more than just murder.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago

And he looked fabulous doing so

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 37 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 64 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Someone commented that they're REALLY trying to take a bad photo of him. Literally anything they can play off as malicious, unhinged, or even "thuggish," but every single time the man pulls a barney stinson. They tried putting him in a suicide smock (which I strongly question, even in psychiatry I've only had to use one a handful of times in almost ten years). They even tazed him until he pissed himself and he's standing tall with his chin up. The man cannot take a bad photo and while I hate to say it's true it probably will actuality give him an advantage in the court proceedings.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

I wonder if he had any acting or modeling experience.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

In addition to a long stream of journalists waiting for the suspect to appear, members of the public - almost all of them young women - were in court, some of whom told CBS, the BBC's US partner, that they were there to show their support.

(emphasis mine)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They're really trying to say that "Oh he's handsome, that's why people like him."

No it's not his looks, it's the fact that he lit the fires of rebellion just be being accused of this act of self-defense.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Ain't hurtin' his case though. Imagine the incels:

Classrooms are for pricks, boardrooms get chicks.

Classrooms get you shade, boardrooms get you laid.

Classrooms are for pussies, boardrooms get pussy.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 178 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (32 children)

His lawyer made a great point about how law enforcement and the media threw "alleged" out the window and just insisted he did it...

What's disappointing is it's apparently working because when I do see and "allegedly" thrown in, people are down voting it like it's a conspiracy.

People always want to act like propaganda can't effect them, but the whole country immediately accepted that he was guilty because of a tiny change in reporting from the norm.

But especially with the wrinkle that someone brought it up to the McD's worker and then she snitched....

I think the cop's have a reason they're sure, it's just they got that reason illegally thru means we're not supposed to know they have. Which explains a lot of shit.

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