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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 56 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

So the TL:DW version seems to be that honey changes or adds an affiliate link to get a commission on the sale. Similar programs like Capital One Shopping probably do the same thing.

Honestly, I don’t give a shit. I hate affiliate links no matter who gets them. They are the real scam.

Sounds link the real solution is to use it to identify potential coupon codes. Then clear cookies, resign in, and enter the code yourself. But it’s not like that yields a cheaper price, so I’m not even sure I care.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

Thank you for saying this. I totally agree with your process, and I'd do the very same every time, but something is wrong in an intangible way that makes me feel bad about doing it.

Is that it? Is the fact that the choice is between two entities I'll never know or even recognize again, that offends my morals but satisfies my ethics? And, since Honey is doing something for me in giving me this code, should that not make me want to help them in return?

I'm not saying I've figured this out so much as saying thanks for enabling me.

[–] vodka@lemm.ee 26 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's just one issue, there's also the fact that they partner with stores to give worse coupons than are actually available, by letting them get affiliate money when doing so. And then advertising that they ALWAYS give you the best codes, while getting paid by stores not to do so....

Theres also another video coming up with stores that have been screwed over by Honey getting hold of codes that are supposed to be hidden/limited. (though that's honestly on the store, make your limited coupons actually limited to avoid this..) But he only teased this, there might be something wkse/more.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

Slightly scummy on the first front, but then again, if I knew the better codes, I’d just use them rather than use a browser extension.

On the second front, that’s more the fault of companies not validating exclusive codes.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 hours ago

I'm torn on affiliate links. I've worked with people in sales before and it's usually scammy unless the contract is done right (flat rate commission, no bonuses for selling "certain" items). I've seen really hard working and informative workers that are actually impossible to replace because of the knowledge of products and handling the customers needs without flair or extra cost. Will inform them of cheaper methods like how easy it is to purchase and install a cable versus paying someone $100 just to plug something in and flip a switch basically.

In those instances, I think the affiliate/commission is warranted. Same with some awesome youtube channels I've ran across where they test the shit out of several products in a category (Torque Test Channel is a good one). If I need the product and I'm buying it off their recommendation I will gladly use their affiliate link if I think about it beforehand.

Now, there are some channels that I've just taken the affiliate link to be basically a form of sponsorship and promotion. Sadly a lot of construction/trade channels end up falling into this eventually. Matt Risinger is probably one of the worse ones, but even lower end guys like The Stud Pack just become a "new product showcase" channel instead of DIY or instructional videos.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 71 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Rent-seeking middlemen. This is the pinnacle of capitalism. Taking revenue while providing nothing is maximum efficiency. You can tell because it raises prices invisibly for everyone.

This is just a baby version of how credit card companies have placed a 1%-5% sales tax on the global economy. You might say "at least the CC companies provide a service", but that tax get's added no matter if your using a CC or not.

[–] ouch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

How does the tax get added if you don't use a credit card?

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago

When you get a credit card machine you sign an agreement saying something like transactions under X amount we, the credit card network company, will charge you 50c or any transactions over X amount we will charge your 1.5%.

Now as a business owner you raise prices 1.5% to cover this fee. If someone pays in cash, the extra 1.5% goes to you, if the customer pays with a card, the 1.5% goes to the card network .

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Because enough people use credit cards that businesses have felt compelled to raise prices across the board to compensate.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The same price must be charged for products purchased with credit card or cash. Otherwise the card provider will withdraw their service from the retailer. So the credit card margin is added to every price.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

card provider will withdraw

Dubious, as I regularly see gas stations with separate cash vs card prices. I've seen small businesses offer discounts for cash, too. And it's not like visa is going to stop processing cards because walmart started offering cash prices. It's just scare tactics. And for big companies, people who pay in cash offer bigger profit margins, so it's not like they are incentivized to help the situation.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 43 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I see Paypal is the owner, I assume it'll be Enshittified on launch

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Afaik honey was acquired by PayPal, they were an independent startup until then. But yeah.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago

I knew that shit was up to no good. I never install anything like that. I assumed it would be sniping on me, I’m sure it does that too.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 41 points 5 hours ago

I heard about this extension years ago. I wasn't always suspicious about it, but I still never used it. I can't say I'm surprised that it turned out to be a scam.

I'd rather pay full price honestly than support stuff like this.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's Camelcamelcamel okay?

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ccc is just an Amazon price tracker. IIRC their revenue is generated by clicks (the outbound hyperlinks have their Amazon affiliate identifier).

WRT to the affiliate program itself, no idea. Last I checked it still does what it says on the tin.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

They're actually providing a useful service, unlike honey just telling you that no coupons exist.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 21 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I reckon if you're stupid enough to click a thumbnail like that, you're going to get scammed at some point anyway

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That thumbnail is for the video exposing honey.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago

Precisely the thumbnail that would prevent you from getting scammed.

But.. ya, that is the worst possible style of thumbnail regardless.

[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol 33 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Lol damn... yeah those thumbnails are pretty insufferable

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Unironically, I have an estension to fix them. (Replaces thumbnails with a random video frame.)

[–] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 18 minutes ago