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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

i wonder; when (and if) the dust settles over the genocide if the bbc and other publications like the ny times will go back to business as usual.

it get that it's a natural inclination to say yes because we've always done so in the past; but we have the horrors of this genocide reported to the general public on social media instead of a few channels patroned by intellectuals and no one else.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well with the bbc it's essential state run propaganda machine so as long as Britain is on the wrong side of history it'll stay like that, until 50 years down the line when greater Israel has been formed and many millions of dead are investigated and brought to light, BBC will have "internal" investigation and say something like "never again" it's all bullshit

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

that implies then, that manufactured consent will always be a thing for us. 😞

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hope things will change but do they? Did imperialism end? Did empires end? Did colonization really end? Slavery? No, it just changed forms, a shackle in new colours. Even if the west was the fall tomorrow the middle east became somehow the new dominant region, with the trauma they faced, would they be any better (hypothetically) I worry for our species as I feel like we're bomb ourselves before we reach true mastery of this earth or use that mastery to enforce an even wider and more ruthless class system

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I worry for our species as I feel like we’re bomb ourselves before we reach true mastery of this earth or use that mastery to enforce an even wider and more ruthless class system

same here; i'm started reading theory (partially) in the hopes of finding something that suggests that we won't bomb or climate change ourselves out of existence.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a book for you my friend, it's called humankind. While these wars are making me lose hope again, this relative cutting age history book (cutting age as in new research used in book rather than decade old and often outdated research ) that argues and shows the beauty of our species. I need to read it again, because I'll be honest I'm losing hope again in humanity Humankind: A Hopeful History https://g.co/kgs/BrbMWsC

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

my reading list has gotten so big since i joined lemmy and i'm thankful for it atm since luigi had accidentally showed me how thoroughly propagandized the media is.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They did it after Iraq. Possibly more younglings have learned this time. But do not underestimate the stupidity of boomers.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

... Possibly more younglings have learned this time ...

no, they haven't,, they've gotten more conservative; if my sizeable millennial and genz family members are any indication.

in my youth; we would dance & drink the night away on holidays like xmas and easter. the younger generations want to go to church and have the children give thanks to jesus; we're growing more conservative as a country.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that because conservatives are the only ones have kids these days?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So why is religious service attendance still declining?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the evangelicals as growing because of the all the brown people joining their ranks like my family.

i liked i better when they were catholic.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

These bourgeois outlets have always been boosters for imperialism, and there’s no reason to believe they’ll suddenly change. The media figures who pushed for the Iraq war got promotions and are still working today, while people like Chris Hedges are blacklisted for life.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

in the meantime i get blacklisted for asking my colleagues if our work was a detriment to humanity (software development for online gambling) and i get blacklisted for reporting my employer for retribution to my state's labor relations board; i had to move to the other side of the country to find work again.