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Dear god, no. This is an abjectly terrible idea. Dems aren't going to win until they stop being the other party of billionaires who are centre-right at best yet claiming to be for the working man. Come on, learn something from this election. We want a Sanders or AOC, not this milquetoast rejection of the full scope of the Overton window.

This is going to be a crazy four years, and to suggest we come out on the other side wanting a return to the same bullshit that held wages and lifestyles back for, by then, 50 years, is a failure to read the room. No one wants what the Democratic party currently offers, and I don't see her suddenly becoming progressive. We don't need another president on the cusp of getting Social Security when elected.

We want that for ourselves after paying into the system for so long, but that's not going to happen. Find a new standard-bearer or die. Learn. Adapt. Run on real change, not the incremental shit that was resoundingly rejected and so generously provided us with the shitshow we're about to endure. Voters stay home when you do that, and here we are.

I mean, how many CEOs need to be killed before anyone gets the message that what they're offering has the current panache of liver and onions? Doesn't matter how well it's prepared; the world has moved on, and whoever gets the nomination in '28 needs to as well. Harris is not that candidate.

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[–] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

I hate the democrats sooooooooo much. They are just gods damn out of touch.

[–] Eryn6844@beehaw.org 8 points 5 days ago (13 children)

hahahaha! god their even more stupid than I thought. maybe they should go look for other candidates. Seems like half the country doesn't want a women as president. They sure as heck don't want a person of color either.

[–] chetradley@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Nah, the bigot vote isn't nearly as important as the fact that people are sick of establishment politicians. People want change and they see that in Trump but not in Harris.

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[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 points 5 days ago

The editor in me has so much to say about that.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I rwad the article and honestly I kinda wish I didn't. This is stupid.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 8 points 5 days ago

It's not stupid so much as the definition of insanity. But oligarchs gotta oligarch.

[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I like OP's opinions because we're roughly aligned toward the same political ideals but he's just a touch more invested and less cynical.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 4 points 5 days ago

Less cynical? That's my first laugh of the day. 🤣 With apologies to Humperdinck, try running a newsroom sometime.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We do not need Sanders or AOC, they are both party sheepdogs whose sole function is to keep disenfranchised voters rounded up in the party with the illusion of they stick around long enough they will have a seat at the table.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 5 points 5 days ago

Correct. Doesn't mean Sanders was wrong or couldn't have wide appeal. Dude's a fucking independent. So, no financial backing. Follow the money, said everyone, especially W. Mark Felt. He had the opportunity to speak to the working class in the general, and we simply couldn't have that. What was he supposed to do? Run in the GOP primary or be as rich as Perot?

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