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[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 137 points 5 days ago (1 children)

if ceo assassinations were a tenth as common as school shootings, the usa would have the toughest gun control laws in the world.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hmm... wait a minute, are you suggesting that we [Redacted by lemmy.world admins]?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If there's anything that the bourgeoisie has told us in the last month

It's that [Redacted by lemmy.world admins] Is our absolute most effective path forward.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lmao, theres actually a term for this

The "White Paper Protest"

Protestors would just show up with sign that is blank, because it would be illegal to actually write the words, and everyone already know what you meant. Funny thing is that blank sign itself also became illegal. Seems like the US could be heading that way under Project 2025.

Remember folks, there's only way out of this, it's to [Redacted by lemmy.world admins]!

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Thanks for reminding me it’s time to move to another instance.

My last straw was when one of the mods sent out a mass message (prior to the recent events in the news) that [Redacted by lemmy.world admins]

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Totally calling that line (from a Google voice number obtained on a VM) to chat with the underpaid folks about the inanity of their job but how they should take that paycheck and also demand more because the lines are flooded.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

Just make sure you use burner number.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

you know that google can map the call to your IP and your provider (or VPN provider) the IP to your payment method, right?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Not mullvad. Paid for my VPN with cash.

You know that spoofing an IP is trivially easy, right?

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

not if you want to get a reply

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

On a hotline? I'll be alright thanks.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

no, for your IP packages that you spoofed the sender adress on. how do you think the remote host will reach it?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

when you open an IP connection for your phone call or your VPN, there need three packages to be sent back and forth. you won't get the second one if you spoofed the IP, hence the call or VPN won't even start.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

i don't think that means what you think it does. it just changes who knows your IP to another node. if you want to establish a connection there will be someone who knows your real IP. how else will you recieve a reply package to complete a connection?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not here to argue with you or teach you. It's really not an advanced concept. If you're lost go talk with ChatGPT or something.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

oh i'm not lost. i'm a network specialist

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

...then you should know how to spoof a call. Kinda embarrassing that you dont.

Dunning Kruger called...

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

my coworkers found your replies hilarious. was nice talking to you bro

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You're straight up embarrassing yourself on a forum full of highly technical people. I won't be surprised when you delete your comments.

You're confidently conflating two very different things: basic IP spoofing that breaks TCP connections and the use of a reverse proxy to mask an IP address during communication. Let me explain why you're wrong and how the process actually works.

  1. IP Spoofing for One-Way Traffic:

When you "spoof" an IP, you modify the source address in a packet to make it appear as if it came from somewhere else.

You're right that for a full TCP connection, the three-way handshake (SYN → SYN-ACK → ACK) won't complete because the response (SYN-ACK) goes to the spoofed IP, not to the actual sender. This is basic networking, and no one is arguing that.

  1. Reverse Proxy Basics:

Here's where you get it wrong: a reverse proxy or intermediary server is not IP spoofing in the raw packet sense.

The reverse proxy establishes the connection with the target server on your behalf. It completes the handshake, relays data to/from the target, and forwards the responses back to you.

Your actual IP never touches the target because all the traffic appears to come from the proxy.

Simplified Flow:

VM (Google Voice) → VPN (Mullvad, paid with cash) → Reverse Proxy → Target Hotline

The target sees the reverse proxy's IP, not yours. The reverse proxy handles the replies and sends them back to your system.

  1. Why This Works:

You only need to maintain a stable connection with the reverse proxy. The proxy takes care of everything else, including interacting with the target server or hotline.

This is not spoofing mid-connection traffic; this is using a relay to abstract your origin. It’s a fundamental networking concept used for load balancing, anonymity, and even services like Cloudflare.

  1. Google Voice Context:

The call originates from a VM, using Mullvad to mask your real IP. If you route the call through a reverse proxy, the target hotline only interacts with the proxy's IP.

You maintain full two-way communication because the proxy handles and relays replies, ensuring nothing breaks.

TL;DR: You're incorrectly applying the concept of raw IP spoofing (which doesn't work for full communication) to a process that involves a reverse proxy or VPN, where the proxy legitimately completes the connection and forwards traffic. If you're a "network specialist," you should know this. The fact that you don't is what's truly embarrassing.

And now, I block you. I won't waste my time talking to morons who are so confidently incorrect.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago

lol, in that case the VPN provider has your real IP and all networking equipment from us providers in between you and the VPN

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Man i would love to read a transcription of that call hahaha!

"I walked into my private bathroom during the 15 minute "return to office pizza party and some animal had written DDD on the wall! I pay good money for this service, want a police escort for my coffee run!"

-Seeo the Clown

I hope being a CEO becomes the most dangerous job in the country making the job untenable until they all get replaced with wallstreetbets AI algo.

“No matter how angry we are, you cannot take a weapon, a ghost gun, put a silencer on and target someone and shoot them. That’s the bottom line,” said Adams

Actually big guy? Turns out you can

[–] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure no online community would constantly prank call that hotline 😎👍

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean, it's not hard to become a CEO. It's not expensive to register an LLC. And you can give yourself whatever stupid title you want.

And, whose to say I, a newly minted CEO, don't feel in fear for my life due to my health insurance company? Make yourself a CEO, and any time they deny a claim, call in to report your health insurance company for threatening your life.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago

Ironically, if you really wanted to make healthcare CEOs safer, you'd set up a hotline for people who have been denied medical coverage.

Hope leads to peace, despair leads to bullets.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Someone should hack it so it just redirects to Kitboga's scammer-trapping labyrinth.

Or better yet, it detects which CEO is calling, and it just dumps the bastards into their own company's AI-hell phone tree.

I prefer my punishments to be ironic.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Can women who are threatened by abusive exes use this hotline? Or is it only for capitalist murderers?

Strictly for those that don't need it. Just like most of what the likes of Hochum and Adams prioritize.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 31 points 5 days ago

Hard to call when you have a bullet in the head.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I hope it's just a recording of Nelson Muntz saying "Ha ha!"

That would be..

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

sigh well that was a real nice secret CEO hotline we had once.

[–] Norin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

My head went to the exact same place.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Thoughts and prayers. 👼 Maybe they need more mindfulness seminars.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

What prevents anybody from calling? Or any self employed from giving themselves the title of CEO? Are they going to reject CFOs and other Cs?

Why do I think this will end up being "hotline for rich bastards"?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 5 days ago

Tap for spoiler....3

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago

"We have to get over it."

Illustrious Donald Trump

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

There's a good chance that if this gets enough push back they'll just implement it quietly and call it something else. Nobody will even know.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Someone needs to leak that number.

[–] Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

the rich always get a fast pass

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What we really need is a murder support group