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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Slammed"

Cringe use of words

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would be fun if one of the victims of that judge were to literally body slam Biden, though. Hypothetically.

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[–] politicalincorruption@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Not a defense of Biden, bit maybe this is why?

Buried in the massive list of nearly 1,500 people

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world -5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (18 children)

Yep it's basic Hanlon's razor. But plenty won't care to engage their brains. It's just another reason for them to crucify him.

Which is like if you guys are this upset about what Biden did. You do realize that the person coming into office after him literally sold pardons for money. To some of the worst people you'll ever know. Oh? Not a peep?

What Trump does doesn't justify or defend Mistakes by Biden. But it really is telling that Biden is disproportionately getting raked over the coals.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You are correct. They hatched a plan to grant clemency to a slew of people who were convicted of non-violent crimes that were switched to home confinement during the pandemic and who kept their noses clean since then. So a bunch of people who tended to skew older and committed financial crimes. No one thought to look at the details, I guess, so he pardoned some people he probably shouldn't have.

Frankly, what's done is done. He needs to now pardon all the kids who were convicted by this asshole and his partner, because they are the ones who really deserve it.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It always reminds me of the West Wing episode where the commutation lawyer asks if the president is looking for "packing peanuts." Like, does he have a buddy that needs their sentence commuted and wants a smokescreen for the move.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

Did anyone sneak Snowden into that list?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I believe it was a blanket pardon for a certain class of offense.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I hope he's OK. He's pretty elderly and someone picking him up and slamming him onto the ground can't be good for him.

Oh this is just lazy journalism? Never mind.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl -5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are journalists not allowed to use metaphors?

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[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think at this point Biden doesn’t give a flying fuck. His political career is coming to a close and he can retire.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

That’s shitty. That Judge is an asshole.

[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In a few months y’all be praying for the normalcy that was Biden.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And? Does this mean he is immune to criticism because he's not Trump? This is a pretty big fuckup, even if it's an accident.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Does this mean he is immune to criticism because he's not Trump?

According to the Dem leadership, campaign strategists, and every "Blue No Matter Who" automaton?

Yes. That's exactly what everything means. About both him and his politically identical VP.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It just means we didn't want orange Hitler act 2. Ds aren't good but they're objectively better than any R. I do what I want in the primary then what I must in the general. If you can't get behind that well... here's 2025 hope one of y'all can shelter me when the new gestapo comes around.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It just means we didn't want orange Hitler act 2. Ds aren't good but they're objectively better than any R. I do what I want in the primary then what I must in the general

No, that part is self evident. Everyone sane and not the victim of intense brainwashing agrees on that.

Where we differ is your false framing.

To pretend that you either support one side unconditionally and never criticize ANYTHING about it no matter what or you're on the other side is absolute lunacy. That or deliberate gaslighting.

If you can't get behind that well

Again with that stupid false dichotomy strawman combo 🤦

Arrogance and obstinate refusal to listen like that from the Dem leadership and obsequious serfs like you is how the fascists won.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah the part where you pretend screaming GeNoCiDe for a year and pretended Trump being worse was irrelevant had no effect on elections. I'm sure that of the record number who stayed home, none did it because of the GeNoCiDe frauds.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

screaming GeNoCiDe for a year

Yeah, because being at all critical about active complicity in the worst crimes against humanity possible is the same as advocating for fascism! 🤦

and pretended Trump being worse was irrelevant

Yet another strawman. I did no such thing at any point.

I'm sure that of the record number who stayed home, none did it because of the GeNoCiDe frauds.

And I'm equally sure that nobody stayed home because even the lesser evil refused to listen to the vast majority of the people they're supposed to represent. That's not at ALL something that could suppress voter participation! 🙄

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You got what you wanted. Democrats lost.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, that's the exact opposite of what I wanted, which I have made clear from the start.

Please either at least TRY to argue in good faith or stop arguing at all.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

TRY to argue in good faith or stop arguing at all.

Says the moral "GeNoCiDe" warrior

Says the moral "GeNoCiDe" warrior

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, because being at all critical about active complicity in the worst crimes against humanity possible is the same as advocating for fascism!

It's called marketing. There's a time and a place for criticism, a close race between bad and worse is not that time, online leftist spaces are not that place. Every leftist voter who chooses to abstain contributes to the fascists' margin.

And I'm equally sure that nobody stayed home because even the lesser evil refused to listen to the vast majority of the people they're supposed to represent. That's not at ALL something that could suppress voter participation

The difference is that you don't control the DNC's strategy, you do control your actions.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a time and a place for criticism, a close race between bad and worse is not that time,

The only reason why the two overlapped at all was because the ones aiding and abetting genocide have been refusing to even acknowledge any wrongdoing for over a year!

A blindingly obvious example of this "not listening to their base" problem I mentioned.

online leftist spaces are not that place

Where else would you suggest?

Far right places like Truth social where everyone will agree for the wrong reasons, wrongly thinking that it's about making sure that Trump wins?

"Centrist" places where everyone will automatically disagree, wrongly thinking that it's about making sure that Trump wins?

Just admit that there's no time and no place where you would actually take constructive criticism from the left seriously and pretending that there is is a pretense for making people sit down and shut up.

Every leftist voter who chooses to abstain contributes to the fascists' margin.

Again with the classics bootlicker role reversal.

It's the job of politicians to earn the confidence and thus the votes of the people.

It's NOT the job of the people to meekly go along with politicians with ethically and morally compromised politicians with bad ideas unquestioningly, even IF they're still the least bad option.

The politicians failed the people, not the other way around.

The difference is that you don't control the DNC's strategy, you do control your actions.

The irony of telling the that I'm only allowed to voice dissent at specific times and places where it would be ignored and then saying I'm in control 🤦

Newsflash: the people is SUPPOSED to control the DNC's strategy! They're public servants paid through public means to enact the will of the people FFS! That's literally what they're there for!

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 days ago (8 children)

What's supposed to happen and what happens are two extremely different things. Only fools make plans based on what's supposed to happen. The rest of us plan our actions based on the flawed reality we live in.

You're "allowed" to do whatever you want. I'm just telling you it's counterproductive. You are allowed to be counterproductive, it's just a stupid thing to do.

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[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I feel the need to say I completely agree with you. Normally when people quote me I think they are arguing with me idk.

fistbump

Edit: Tell me why you are downvoting me, you cowards!

Normally when people quote me I think they are arguing with me idk

That's usually the case here, yeah 🤷 Glad to be the exception today, though 😁

fistbump

🤜

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, really. That's how they lost to the most unqualified, dishonest, and mentally unhinged presidential candidate in modern history. Twice.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sure, that's what it is, because people said we should vote for Biden instead of hold him to a high standard while ignoring Trump acting like neo-Hitler.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Again with the false dichotomy: it is in fact possible to vote for someone without holding them blameless no matter what they do or don't do.

You're not just allowed but REQUIRED to hold the ones meant to represent you to a high standard if you want anything to improve.

"Anything better than Trump is good enough" is not how you end up with people accurately representing the will of the people or even PRETENDING to.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it is in fact possible to vote for someone without holding them blameless no matter what they do or don't do.

LMAO and yet you started this thread ranting about how if someone ever pushed back on you, it means they are fully intolerant of ANY criticism of ANY Democrat, ever.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you started this thread ranting about how if someone ever pushed back on you, it means they are fully intolerant of ANY criticism of ANY Democrat, ever.

Nope, sure didn't. That's just you projecting.

I can explain it for you, and I have, but I can't understand it for you. Have the day you deserve.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All anyone has to do is scroll up to be reminded. You claimed your "enemy" is entirely incapable of nuance and in the way you did so, proved you aren't.

Thanks for the weird threat to my day tho?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was employing obvious hyperbole to make a point. That you chose to take it literally in spite of that in order to build yet another strawman is on you.

Thanks for the weird threat to my day tho?

Wishes aren't threats. If I was powerful enough to wish things into existence, Trump would never have become president and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Now go bother someone else with your bad faith nonsense.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have the exact day that karma has in store for you 😍

Thanks, I will now that I'm hopefully done with your nonsense for the day.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

Nah, I'll continue to fight for something better

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Conservative media won't shut up about a non-story of Biden reducing a man's sentence from 17 to 15.

Meanwhile Trump prepares to ruin America

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