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[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 68 points 11 months ago

I have a friend who also stutters, or, I found out he stutters after knowing him for a few months.

Apparently he uses a similar technique where he "sings" what he wants to say in a slightly higher-pitched voice when talking in a professional setting. He sounds totally normal when using it, but you're not in doubt when he doesn't.

I'm sure it took a lot of training to master it.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The speech and singing regions of the brain are separate from each other, which is why this works. It also can work for people who lose the ability to speak from brain damage.

It's wild how adaptable the brain is. Some dude was out there just living life when he had a head mri after a car crash (iirc) and found that he only had a brain stem.

[–] Batman@sopuli.xyz 16 points 11 months ago

Wow! I had to go looking, he was having leg pains and they did an MRI ro find 90% of the brain missing. Wow. IFL SCIENCE

[–] Lag_Incarnate@ttrpg.network 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To quote ancient words of wisdom: "Everybody's sayin' that the Scatman stutters but doesn't ever stutter when he sings. But what you don't know, I'm gonna tell you right now that the stutter and the scat is the same thing, yo, I'm the Scatman."

[–] FardyCakes@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Bee bo bo bee bo bo

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

James Earl Jones also is speak-singing because he stuttered as a kid. That's why his voice is so resonant.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Voice resonance has more to do with your body/skull structure than anything. One thing that I find interesting is that most phenomenonal singers have rather large mouths. My singing ability actually improved as a child after getting my jaw expanded.

You can kinda test this out yourself. Hold a note with your arms by your side, then again with your hands on top of your head with elbows out. Your voice will have a lot more resonance because you're expanding your chest (this is also the best position to catch your breath in)

Source: classically trained musician taught by PhDs in the various instruments I can play (including singing)

I also have a fun breathing exercise that will make you super light headed, which is fun.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I also have a fun breathing exercise that will make you super light headed, which is fun.

I would love if you shared it.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

disclaimer: do not attempt if you have any sort of blood pressure or cardiac issues or anything that might be aggrivated by a bit of orothostatic hypotension.

First, inhale for 4 seconds, completely filling your lungs, then exhale, completely emptying your lungs. Repeat, taking one second off the inhale each time, but keeping the exhale at 4 seconds.

The effect is amplified if you bend over while doing it and stand up quickly after.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don't know if they were referring to the Wim Hof breathing technique, but it will also make you super lightheaded and put you in a meditative state.

Round 1:

about 30 deep breathing breaths. non stop fill it all, empty it all. fast paced

After the last breath, keep your lungs empty and DO NOT BREATH for a whole minute

after the minute, fill your lungs fully then hold for 15 seconds

breath normally for 5 seconds or so

Round 2 (where it gets ''hard'':

same thing, about 30 deep breaths non stop fill it all, empty it all. fast paced again

After the last breath, keep your lungs empty and DO NOT BREATH nor fill them with the slightest bit of air for a whole minute and a half. again, do not fill your lungs at allll.

after the minute and a half you fill it for again 15 seconds

breath normally for 5 seconds or so.

Round 3.

Exact same as round 2. this one will probably where it feels like you wont make it but you got to let the body do it's thing!

[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Yikes I had no idea about the man, himself. I only really know about the breathing technique and can confirm that it definitely is an interesting experience. It put me in an almost psychedelic state, but it's not something I would want to do regularly.

Thanks for spreading awareness, though. I don't wish to promote bullshit artists. From a quick look into the deaths, it seems they all involved a pool or a body of water and drowning. So hopefully the breathing technique by itself is safe enough, at least.

[–] get_off_the_phone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Has anyone here heard of wall-bong or is it just something my cousins invented?

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

It's definitely a thing, even with people who can't speak due to brain damage.

[–] stelelor@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On a related note (heh) walking and dancing are also controlled by different brain areas. One of my neighbours has episodes of neurologic muscle spasms that can make her unable to even stand... So when it happens she starts shimmying sideways, or doing little hops. She's absolutely adorable.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 3 points 11 months ago

The brain is interesting and weird

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

I'm chopping onions, that's why there are tears in my eyes.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 24 points 11 months ago

"psycho killer qu'est-ce que c'est" 🎶

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 20 points 11 months ago

That gave me a genuine smile.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 19 points 11 months ago
[–] azrendelmare@ttrpg.network 15 points 11 months ago

Always loved this one.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

What a fitting song for a stutterer lol

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I actually had my own bard character based on this premise, Ré Mí the Eloquence Bard, a Kenku who learned to sing speak to overcome the Kenku speech impediment.

[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

You said pre-covid. So what about now, do you still organize this? If yes, where?