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A woman is dead following a “tragic chain of events” that began with a bomb threat against Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene at her Rome home, police said.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 171 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You left out the best part:

According to Rome police, the department received an email listing Greene’s home address and saying a pipe bomb had been placed in her mailbox shortly after 7 p.m. on Friday, Dec. 6. The email initially went to a junk folder and was not seen until Monday at about 9:30 a.m.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And rather than the journalists saying “three days old” and giving exact dates, it’s just “Monday”

It was opened at 9:30 on December 9th. It sat in the junk folder all weekend, the police found it, and a police officer driving a personal truck killed someone

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

“Look what you made me do!”

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Seems like it would've been better to call Marjorie to tell her not to open her mailbox instead of rushing to the house at speed.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They weren't rushing to the house at speed. The accident occurred when an officer was driving his personal vehicle to the department so that he could get ready to respond to the situation.

The lady who died pulled out from a parking lot in front of him, and got t-boned on the driver side.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well, that seems like a non-department-related accident. My employer isn't responsible if I get in an accident on my way to work, not sure why that would be different here.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

I'm not so sure. If I'm commuting to work that's one thing, but if I'm responding to a page from my employer that's different. This officer, though heading to work, was in the process of responding to the threat. They weren't just commuting as part of their morning routine.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

you're not a pig though, no special rules for you

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the cop was definitely speeding though.

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given that it's MTG, the first thing she would probably do after being told not to open her mailbox would be to open her mailbox. Not that I'm saying it's a bad plan.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, just tell her it's the woke liberals tell her what she can and can't do.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The article says it was someone rushing to the bomb squad HQ, not to MTG's house. Also it says they contacted her first and she wasn't home.

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So they were rushing to an empty house to rescue who exactly?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

They believed there was a bomb in the mailbox. If she lives in a neighborhood that's still potentially near other people. My mailbox is on a sidewalk that folks use from time to time.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago

so the spam filters worked.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I also filter email from Matt Gaetz to Junk.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is Matt Gaetz emailing you? Are you a high school girl?

[–] UnhingedFridge@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They might be. lemmy.world rules require someone be 18+, though I doubt he'd go after a senior.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

Obviously the bomb was waiting for read receipt before arming, duh.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 124 points 1 week ago (7 children)

On the way to the headquarters in their personal vehicle, a Rome Police sergeant and bomb squad member collided with another vehicle driven by 66-year-old Tammie Pickelsimer.

A Georgia State Patrol spokesperson said the traffic incident is still under investigation, but according to the initial findings, Pickelsimer’s 2002 Mazda Protege pulled out of a Rome parking lot into the path of the officer’s 2015 GMC Sierra truck. The officer applied the brakes but the truck struck the Mazda near the driver’s side front door. Pickelsimer was taken to a hospital where she died from her injuries. The officer suffered minor injuries and has been released from the hospital

  1. clickbait. The lady was not associated with or even anywhere near the purported bomb.

2)…wanna bet the cop was driving at a high rate of speed, in a vehicle without lights and sirens?

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

I'd argue it isnt clickbait and is a fairly accurate title. Motorist killed as police respond. The motorist was hit while the police were responding. The title never claimed the motorist had anything to do with the bomb threat, that was the context for the police response. Typically when the headline is refering to someone involved with the crime, they use the term suspect. The fact they used motorist actually gave me a hint it was an unassociated party that was hit.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The only way it's misleading is in the usual refusal to acknowledge that the police killed this innocent person. It's always the same passive voice, as if people keep magically dropping dead when the police happen to be around.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It including that it was to a bomb threat towards green implies an untrue association.

Was the title technically accurate? Yes. Is it still click bait? I’d say yes. Cops kill people responding to (and no where near,) calls with a startling regularity.

Some cop got up and yehawwed through traffic without the usual aids to make it safe. It happens. It’s almost never reported.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes, cops that are frequently on call are allowed to install lights or sirens on personal cars so they can get into their station quickly.

Bombsquad calls are less frequent but generally urgent.

In any case, I would suggest he was driving like he had lights and sirens, despite not having them. Which makes it incredibly unsafe to do, and places blame squarely on the cop. (Though the article made sure to mention she pulled into his way.)

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

2)…wanna bet the cop was driving at a high rate of speed, in a vehicle without lights and sirens?

I wouldn't bet against it but I've had the same thing happen. Buddy was driving and it was a bright sunny summer afternoon. We were doing all of 30MPH and an old lady pulled out onto the road maybe 20' in front of us. The Samurai we were in was totaled and so was her Buick. She didn't die but she did spend a couple of days in hospital. I bounced my head off the windshield so hard I was knocked out and I bent the passenger door out a good 4" with my right arm / elbow. My buddy was also knocked out from banging his head off the windshield even with his seatbelt on. That can happen when your vehicle is suddenly gets 18" shorter.

I'm not defending the cop but sometimes drivers just do dumb shit, especially older ones.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Sure. Stuff happens.

But given the urgency in the cop… I have to assume he was rather more than somewhat at fault.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Also a good reason why driving a giant vehicle like a GMC Sierra that smashes anything it touches shouldn't be free. A higher vehicle tax on something like that would be appropriate, instead they get higher tax write-offs and lower emissions and safety standards.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

wanna bet the cop was driving at a high rate of speed, in a vehicle without lights and sirens?

Only if you're giving like +1500, then I might bet like $10

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol, my usual go-to internet wager is pet photos. Doesn’t even need to be your pet :)

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When cat photos are exchanged we all win.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I don’t have a cat, so take this instead… shamelessly ripped off c/cats (rocket may have been good for a few shared chuckles on my end. Compliments of PugJesus)

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

And probably distracted using his laptop.

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“The department holds the individual responsible for sending the threatening email fully accountable for setting this tragic chain of events into motion.

"Guys it's literally not even the drivers fault"

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Man, fuck the police.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When her family sues, the pig is going to make a qualified immunity defense. It's fucking disgusting.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't think qualified immunity affects civil suits like wrongful death. AFAIK it only covers criminal charges like murder.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Other way around. Qualified immunity prevents cops from being sued. It does not shield them from criminal charges.

(The corrupt prosecutorial and judicial systems do that instead.)

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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Foreign agents getting the police to kill us, one by one.

Of course the police take zero responsibility. Their accounting of the events includes apply the brakes a piece of information that sounds sus.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yea of a car pulls out in front of a citizen that might have been going 1mph over the limit and slams on the breaks but the person who pulled out dies the driver that was "speeding" 100% will be charged.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What kind of dillweed makes a bomb threat with no demands attached? That's some real amateur hour stupidity, right there, unless there was a demand and it just wasn't disclosed. 'Cause otherwise, there's no point.

Law enforcement is going to get the target the hell out of the area and then find the bomb you just told them about, or not if there was in fact no bomb (which seems to be the case here), so either way your presumptive target is not going to get got no matter how you slice it.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 4 points 1 week ago

I’d watch MTG burn.

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