“If the capitalists are ok with something it must be bad”
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Same reasoning that leads to people praising authoritarian regimes like China and Russia.
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Pretty much the only other time I have seen any transphobia on Lemmy is from a .ml user who called someone a chaser for saying they were married to a femboy. These people don't actually care about LGBT issues - they are just trolls who use it as a cudgel when it is convenient.
That's pretty shitty but not surprising for tankies.
I've sadly ran into this kind of thing before.
I'll never forget the assholes I found on Reddit who tried to say that it's wrong to push for LGBT Rights especially outside of the US because it was "Pushing Western Values where they don't belong, like a colonizer!"
These people will come up with any excuse to be dickbutts.
LGBT Rights are based and cool, and anyone who unironically uses the term "Biological Male" is not arguing in good faith
LGBT Rights are based and cool
depends, but in general they are
and anyone who unironically uses the term “Biological Male” is not arguing in good faith
I disagree on this
"biological male" is if anything bad description of reality. A trans woman who has been on hormone therapy for a couple of years is biologically closer to cisgender women than cisgender men. And even more so if they've had surgeries. But usually people who use that term don't care and lump everyone who was assigned male at birth into that category.
I could attribute this term to ignorance because it sounds reasonable, but it's far too often used to exclude trans women from spaces that other women belong
That’s a beautiful way of seeing it indeed, you convinced me
My point was just to say that in very specific cases it can be used to make it clear that the person is born male but I guess the cisgender and transgender terms are now relatively well known
It’s still easier to explain some things with this word, but I wouldn’t use it socially of course
You nailed the problem: it is often used for bad reasons and thus people categorize people saying this word, which is highly invalid imo and shouldn’t be criminalized this way when the context is appropriate
But yea, now even scientific literature pretty much abandoned this word
Wow, spread this everywhere dude. Also make note that they're a lemmy dev
bourgoisie is based B)
why are all your comments downvoted?
seems like all the comments are gone!
perhaps people misconstrued it as bourgeoisie being based for transphobia, not the trans itself?
wat? no, i mean all of your comments don't have upvotes
Can someone explain to someone out of the loop what's transphobic about his post?
Saying that the topic of "caring about transgender and LGBT issues" is promoted by the bourgeois is clearly not intended to indicate they respect those communities concerns.
The "men in women's sports" thing is just straight up transphobic, sexist misinformation.
It shouldn't need to be explained, but using "trans" as a label to attack a woman to delegitimize her sporting victory is just a hot mess of issues.
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The part at the beginning up to the middle
Don't also forget the ending as well. The whole FUCKING thing is transphobic
The part about the firefox plugin?
Now that it's been explained to you, can you explain to us what was so hard to understand that you needed it explained to you?
The "intentions" everyone seemed to be reading into the post. Outsiders can only take the statement on face value.
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