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While it's very unlikely that someone has a definitive answer, this question popped into my head after the assassination of the UHC CEO and it's been bothering me that I can't shake off this feeling that more is likely to happen (maybe not in higher frequency but potential).

Usually I could provide counter-arguments to myself in a realism/(should I buy apples or oranges comparison) kind-of sense but this one I feel more unsure about.

I wish I had more diverse exp in systems analysis as these kinds of questions that linger in my head really irritates my OCD brain as I just want to know what's the most likely answer.

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[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Never underestimate the laziness of a disaffected but mostly not quite yet starving population.

tl;dr: Patience, grasshopper.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Nah. That won't happen until the Resource Wars begins in earnest.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Short answer: no.

One CEO getting shot is not going to change much. The American public's attention span is two weeks, if that. Another CEO in the endless line of corporate douchebags will take the spot of the murdered one and so on. All the lousy crap that led to our fucking useless health care system is still in place: CEOs with no heart/conscience, health industry lobbyists, spineless politicians for sale to the highest bidder.

For sure, this was an exceptional event, but it's not going to lead to any lasting change. Disagree with me? Post your prediction for what will change one year from now and let's see what happens. My guess is NOTHING.

[–] reddithalation@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

in a year from now, ceo's will probably have a bit more private security and do less walking around in cities at 6 in the morning alone. I agree with you on the rest though

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[–] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I think billionaires are entering a phase known as FAFO.

[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Hopefully we will move towards a more equitable society, but Fascists also have a track record of exploiting the sort of instability American society has been faced with during this century so far. If we don't handle this carefully, it could go badly. Which is saying a lot, given the last decade.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

If we are it's the rich's own fault, which is what that phrase actually means.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t eat shit, mulch the rich.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The system is extremely flawed but works just well enough for a plurality of people to feel like they are getting something out of it. I think it would need to collapse in such a way as to affect more people if there was a chance it would be replaced

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe not eat. Most of them are old and probably way to tough to chew.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We're the same people we were a week ago.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ha, I wish.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I doubt it. There's a good chance that we will see copycat killers. That's a well known phenomenon, but it is not a change in society.

High-profile events can catalyze changes. Violence has been committed. A person died. That creates a sense of urgency. Americans have discovered that there is a broad consensus that something ought to be done about health care. We'll see.

But I do not see any appetite for a societal change. Americans look at individuals, not at systemic factors. The USA has, by far, the highest incarceration rate in the world. It costs the taxpayer a lot of money to feed and house all those people, not to mention that the rest of society misses out on all the productive labor they could do. The US likes to punish individuals for perceived wrong-doing, but it does not look at systemic factors.

US society now wants more bad guy CEOs punished. That's not a change and it will not lead to a change. People aren't even thinking about how the law could be changed to punish these bad guys, or what they personally could do alone or by collective action. They are waiting for heroes.

Americans want V (for Vendetta) to save them while they watch the show. Many think that Elon Musk is Ironman. That's part of the malaise.

People want individuals to take care of things and so individuals need the power to do so. Well, billionaires are people who have been given the power to take care of business (excuse the pun). And if they don't do it right, it's because they are greedy or have some other individual flaw.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Probably not, but it's nice to see that the assassination of just one executive, and the widespread support and praise the assassin has received, has other parasites terrified. My optimistic side says that maybe this will get the attention of lawmakers. My realistic side foresees private militias funded by megacorporations, but without rockerboy Keanu Reeves leading the resistance against them.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

nope but the middle class that is left is about to take a good fucking

I'm so hungry...

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nah, we're going to see more anon violent terrorists, some of them might even do a little good, but for the most part it's not going to change a single thing about our system of laws or how the majority of people navigate that system.

White supremacists groups have been kidnapping, holding government buildings hostage, and threatening politicians for decades and they don't get their way, don't expect it to be any different from any other groups or individuals.

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