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[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago
[–] yesman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

The problem here isn't nutrition or fallacy from nature.

The problem is that everything special about RFK jr. was true before his umbilical chord was cut.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 164 points 1 day ago (12 children)

The reason being saturated fats are linked with poor health, and unsaturated fats are linked with better health. And not just in a "rich people are healthier" way, when companies switched, everyone got healthier.

But this guy doesn't care. We're really living in a post-truth world.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (24 children)

Yup. It's well studied which is why when someone has a heart attack the recommendation is essentially eliminating all saturated and trans fat. (See the DASH diet).

Basically, if the fat is solid at room temp, it's unhealthy.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What about coconut oil? Or is that one of those weird ones where it depends?

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

Nope. Coconut oil is really high in saturated fat. It's bad. The fact that it went through a phase where people were considering it a "healthy" fat had actual nutritionists raging.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

That's a really fun rule of thumb

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[–] witten@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The omega 6/3 thing about seed oils mentioned in the article is real. It can be a big cause of inflammation. Plus, seed oils often have pretty toxic extraction procedures, especially for the cheap stuff.

But tallow and animal fats aren't the solution. Olive oil is. And I guess avocado oil if you need something more neutral and/or with a higher smoke point.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Please share your proof of any negatives of seed oil, because it's bullshit

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Olive oil doesn't scale to match anything near current human consumption — a big chunk of what's sold as olive oil is already counterfeit.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Olives, canola and soy beans are all the same thing - they are all fruits not seeds.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago

Canola is rapeseed

[–] witten@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't quite follow. You're saying that because not everyone can feasibly partake in healthier food, nobody should? Also, the current economic realities around certain food items aren't fixed in stone. Taxes, tariffs, regulations, and all sorts of other policy levers can make big changes to the market.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

No, I'm saying that it isn't possible significantly shift peoples' diets to olive oil from other fats and oils because olive oil consumption is supply-constrained.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Okay.. But it's still a healthier solution than vegetable oil or tallow for the portion of the population that can be supplied with it, right?

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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Illuminati trying to keep America away from delicious beef fat boiled meats

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Great! Let ‘em have their animal fats/lard/tallow. They don’t trust medical doctors, so when their LDL goes through the roof… well, Darwinism will step in. Problem will self-correct in a generation or two.

In other words: FAFO.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For non-contagious diseases, sure.

But as it turns out, obesity is actually contagious: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5124998/

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Social contagion as a component in disease spread and prevention is a really interesting concept and definitely needs more study.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

there's a few treats we still use lard or tallow for but that's pretty much it, and only once-a-year at most.

still use real butter or bacon drippings for frying eggs, though. ain't gonna give that up.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I will still use butter for all that popcorn I am going to consume while watching post-reality USA go down the drain.

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