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Automotive research firm finds that Tesla has higher frequency of deadly accidents than any other car brand

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[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Makes sense to me, most people who own them seem to drive like jackasses.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 39 minutes ago

To be fair most of them are in California and Californians are the worst drivers in the country.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 41 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I work as a valet driver and the Tesla - unlike any other car including the newer EVs from other brands - seems like it was designed by people who have never driven a car. Ever.

Call me crazy but having nearly all the controls in a stupid idiotic touch screen where you have to scroll through multiple menus for basic car settings is a terrible idea. And so is braking by letting off the gas.

And the people who buy them tend to be a certain kind of person… not the brightest

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

People always clown on BMW drivers, Tessholes are the absolute worst.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 36 minutes ago

Teslas replaced bmw for sure, now I'm just like "sure they are dicks but at least they can drive" while teslas are mostly dicks who don't know how to drive.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

They were bad before teslas existed! Benz drivers too

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Braking by letting off the gas? So you can’t coast, it’s either go or stop?

[–] Revonult@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Regen breaking. My guess they can't bake it into the brake pedal because some rules for what a break pedal is allowed to do or just bad design. Both very possible.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

Bad design. Plenty of EVs have their brake pedal apply a mixture of regen and friction braking, with the actual proportions dependent on factors like how quickly you hit the brake (soft braking is entirely regen, slamming the brakes apples almost entirely actual brakes in my experience), or how much charge is in the battery (you can't safely pump power from regen into a nearly full battery).

Plenty of them also let you control how much passive regen happens when you lift the pedal, with the default on mine at least feeling very similar to the slowing you get when lifting off the gas with an automatic transmission. It's adjustable from none at all to moderate braking force, and when I turn it up lifting my foot from the gas illuminates my brake lights.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

My Ford PHEV does regenerative braking through the brake pedal. The brake pads only engage if you press hard enough that the braking demand is higher than the slowing caused by regenerative braking. It will show you how well you’re doing with a gauge to show how much of your regen-braking force you’re using, and if it never engages the brake pads until you’re already stopped (for the brake hold function) it tells you 100% of the braking energy went into the battery. Pretty cool.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah and I HATE it. I drove my cousins Tesla when it first came out, way before musk started publicly acting like the douchebro he is and before there was really a Tesla fanboy club with a bunch of wannabes slobbing musks knob online.

I think I drove it in the neighborhood for like five minutes, stopped and parked the car and asked my cousin to drive it back. Hating it is an understatement.

Last year all the valets and I agreed we won’t be parking Tesla’s because of how much we hate them, but management overruled us this year.

I’ve been driving for 20 years. I shouldn’t need a lesson from a Tesla owner on how to drive their car. The fact that I do shows how fucking dangerous they are. They’re not designed by people who drive and it’s so fucking obvious that the computer nerds who design them get chauffeured everywhere by Ubers.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 33 minutes ago

Until I lived here I wouldve assumed that last line about Ubers was an exaggeration but...yeah, a huge portion of the bay area strategic techbro reserve actually can't legally drive. Then once they turn 28 and move to the burbs they lost a full decade of learning and they shift from not legally allowed to just "shouldn't".

[–] n_emoo@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Hard disagree on this one. The regenerative braking has a learning curve yes, but the pros outweigh the cons imo. When you brake (in a traditional car or an EV), you are wearing out yor brake pads, turning friction into heat. Done right, renerative braking means almost all energy is captured back, and even lower maintenance by not bothering the brake pad.

It takes getting used to, you hate it at first, which is why tesla has an option to disable it, but there is a reason why most people who own Teslas use it, and other EVs are getting it as well.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 30 minutes ago

The complaint isn't that regeneration is bad, because that's been part of any battery vehicle since the first Prius in 1997. The complaint is that while Toyota solved this problem before much of Lemmy's userbase was born, only Elon decided to make the car behave fucking weird.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Regenerative braking is good thing, yes .But implementing it as one pedal driving is terrible. Other OEMs like Ford or VW blend regenerative braking into the brake pedal of their EVs such that it feels exactly like a normal car. The friction pads are there for either emergency braking or for bringing the car to a final stop after slowing down.

[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 58 minutes ago

I drive my Mach-E exclusively in 1-pedal. It's a pretty quick transition.

Probably easiest to make an analogy to the transition to analog sticks for gaming.

It was a bit difficult but, once you get the nuance, it's pretty game changing.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It's called regen braking and puts energy back into battery. You can also control how strong the regen is in settings.

I prefer strong regen and hold mode. The car will slow as soon as you release the accelerator pedal. Hold mode basically means the car stays put when it's stopped until you press the accelerater. Creep mode would have the car roll forward when you release the brake.

The one pedal driving works really well but there is a small learning curve. I would find it a bit annoying to switch back and forth like the valet guy.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Regenerative braking happens through the brake pedal on my Ford PHEV. I prefer it, because it drives the same way every other car does but still allows you to stop with 100% regenerative braking as long as you don’t press too hard on the pedal.

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Do you put your foot over the brake and maybe hold some pressure on the pedal?. Just asking as I'm going to just put this out there If not your doing it wrong. As a responsible driver your foot must at least press the brake pedal to hold you still and I'll tell you why. What if you get hit from behind. Where is your foot? Over the brake or gas? Most people like 99 percent tense when hit with sudden stress. But are you going to clamp down and shoot into traffic or help everything behind you also come to a stop?

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

B-but it looks so sleek and clean! Who cares about safety!

[–] slumberlust@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Does it? Looks outdated to me.

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