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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 21 points 1 hour ago

They are just propagandized. In general, it's so much like racists - they may know trans people and just think they are the exceptions, like them as individuals and still think they hate them as a group. They are intentionally riled up by being forced fed edge cases and disinformation.

Trans people are just people. They aren't angels who are never criminals and they aren't degenerates who are always criminal, they are a diverse group like all of us are. But you can bet your ass that whenever a trans person does something criminal it will be blown up so big in conservative media and used to paint them all as criminals. It's just the right wing media machine.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Conservatives come in two types. The rich ones who want more and more money. And the poor ones who also want more money but are unable to obtain it because the rich hoard money.

The rich conservatives need to stop the poor conservatives from realizing the rich are why the poor can’t get money. So they make up vulnerable groups to blame for the poor’s problem, and the poor are generally too poorly educated to catch on to this game.

Different groups have been the scapegoat. Women, blacks, the italians, the irish, asians, gays, and now it’s transgender people.

The good news is transgender people WILL get full rights in about 20-30 years if you look at historical cycles. The bad news is it will be a fight and many will die before they get treated as human beings by these asshole conservatives.

[–] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 6 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

I think earth’s current environment is going to collapse in 20-30 years.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 31 minutes ago

True egalitarianism

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

In my experience and speaking with transphobes I think it’s caused by our current culture of trying to force people to accept them.

Most people in my experience are happy not knowing or ignoring signs that someone is trans or gay. However when you start bringing it up in casual conversation or being overtly flamboyant for lack of a better term people start giving push back on it. I would compare it to the vegan stereotype. No one cares you’re vegan but when you constantly bring it up or try to make every conversation about you being vegan people get annoyed.

We as a society need to accept that racists and transphobes won’t change. You can’t force them to accept anything.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

How to say it delicately.. Many conservative/religious men really, truly want to just impale their throats on lady dick, but they are indoctrinated from birth to believe that a zombie from space (who they agree watches them shower and have sex) will be mad at them if they do what makes them happy. So to distract themselves from that always burning urge to ravenously aspirate dong nog, they performatively hate things as a hobby to pass the time until they die - profoundly alone and completely unhappy (see Lindsey Graham)

And then the conservative women are taught that they are stupid, useless furniture pieces there to look pretty and parrot - not capable of an opinion outside of the one provided by their husband or father.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

🤣🤣

This is so on the nose, I love it.

As a male who quite enjoys having said orface impaled by (lady) dick. These folks need to start enjoying life instead of hating it and dragging everyone else down with them.

Ravenously asperate dong nog

Brother, your killing me here, this is epic.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I heard PregNog before, but it had me rolling.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
[–] heraplem@leminal.space 1 points 24 minutes ago

Even trans people aren't beating the "nearly all mass shooters are men" statistic.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 24 minutes ago

He must have been bullied terribly.

The interesting thing about the furor over trans people existing is that 90% of any harm, real or imagined, stems from mistreatment of people. Conservatives treat trans people badly (supposedly) due to mental issues that are caused by the way conservatives treat trans people.

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

There are plenty of atheist transphobes.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

They exist, but let's not act like religion isn't playing a huge role in the perpetuation of trans hate. If a person says that they dislike trans people, 9/10 times they are going to be religious. A lot of other cases will stem from a person coming from a religious family, or culture, if they aren't religious themselves.

It's not a requirement to hate gay and trans people to be an atheist, but it is a requirement to at least act like you do to be a member of many different religious denominations.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

conservative ideology is built around hate, and thus attracts hateful people, or indoctrinates people susceptible to to such ideology. There must always be some outside group to blame every problem on, and to feel superior to without having to actually be better. Conservatives have enough hate to go around that they're not focused exclusively on trans people, but this flavor of hate is the new hotness for them.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

They have to have somebody to hate so they don't hate themselves so much.

[–] wipeout69@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago)

Because there are only 2 possibilities:

  1. Trans people are real and the Bible is a book filled to the brim with bullshit

or

  1. Trans people are not real but merely EVIL men and women possessed by Satan because god created Adam and Eve, not they and them

They are in fact mutually exclusive. So what do you think the moron cult members will choose, the option that requires deprogramming... or the option that aligns with their stupid bullshit cult beliefs?

Because most people don't actually know any trans people, and find unfamiliar things to be weird and scary.

But also because terrible people have weaponized those feelings for personal political gain. Most people probably wouldn't give a fuck, even if they found them weird, if talking heads weren't stoking the flames of bigotry.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sorted by controversial, wish me luck boys!

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it's most people. I (choose to) believe that's a loud minority.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Most of the culture wars bullshit is originating from a tiny but disproportionately noisy number of people.

But then, because their claims are so outrageous, the media picks up onbit and runs with it, without bothering to be proportional to the number of people causing the problem in the format place.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Trans people give conservatives feelings in their pants and scare and confuse them. They lash out in fear, hatred, and self-loathing.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

I’ve never met a person against trans people. I talk to lots of people as a Uber driver in Denver. What state do you live in?

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

I am currently stationed in Chicago. And I have met trans people across the US and none of em have been bad or had a bad attitude they are pretty down to earth and pretty cool.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Fascists are cowards who attack the most vulnerable people as a standard tactic.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And after they exterminate one group, they move onto another

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

They came for the trans ~~and I did nothing, because I am not trans ~~ and I fought back where I could. Because fuck that shit, we know there this dance will end otherwise!

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You all are overthinking it way too much.

Most people hate anything that's different or uncommon to themselves and their "world".

Simple as that.

It's heterophobia in the semantic sense of the word "fear of anything that's different".

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I always thought that xenos was more refering to people from outside, like physically from a different place.

But I really know nothing about words, greek, latin or whatever. So it will probably be a better choice of words.

[–] quafeinum@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sigh, I'll get the holy promethium...

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Far simpler than whateveryone else is saying. The best way to rally humans to your side is to give them a common enemy. So conservative politicians picked enemies that are small in number and told everyone how they are to blame for all that is wrong in the world.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Times are hard? Our existing economic systems are perfect. It’s [insert minority here] who caused this. Quick, give me all the power so I can stop them.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They're going to use the bathroom and play sports. KILL THEM ALL!

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 75 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

For a simple example: my mother is Catholic and until Trump came along, a lifelong single-issue Republican voter who always said she would be a Democrat if it weren't for abortion. She attends church in an extremely progressive, famously LGBTQ-friendly town.

There's a transwoman who attends her church (let's call her Rita). This lady is probably in her mid-50s to mid-60s and has been a fixture at the church for at least 5 years. My mom has been in choir and bible study groups with her for years now. She still just can't see Rita as a woman. Treats her politely but behind her back refuses to call her "she" and says she's a "man in a dress".

She's really offended that Rita uses the ladies' room. I've asked her why and she can't articulate it, she just feels like it's an invasion of her privacy, because men don't belong in the ladies' room. And when I point out that Rita isn't a man, she just rolls her eyes. I've asked her if she's worried that Rita is in there for predatory purposes and she admits that she doesn't think Rita intends any harm. I've asked her how she'd feel if she were forced to use the men's room and she says "but that's different!"

My mom prides herself in being a moral person, and still can't manage to get past her bigotry to see Rita as a woman. There are just too many mental blockades against it. But since she thinks she's so highly moral, she thinks she must be correct in this situation. It excuses her from finding empathy and bettering her attitude toward trans folks.

My longwinded point is that when people who consider themselves highly moral are bigoted, there's almost zero chance of getting through to them. And I think a lot of the people who are bigoted against trans folks feel that morality is on their side and being trans is morally deviant, so they think they're justified in their prejudice.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 4 hours ago

That's been my similar experience with the Zionist Jews in my family.

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