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[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 hours ago

"When [Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.)] was first voting against the bill, most Democrats disagreed with her. Since then, they have become concerned that a law they would have considered reasonable under a Harris administration would be dangerously applied under Trump."

No shit. People like Tlaib must be frustrated (having voted against this bill three times)

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oath Keepers?

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 hours ago

I see the legal groundwork for the first concentration camp is here

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

You know, when they inevitably get this passed Senate next year, maybe the silver lining is so many people are going to be part of a "terrorist organization" they might actually do something radical.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, after all.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

On Jan 20, ACLU will be declared a terrorist organization

Also, probably EFF, Internet Archive, Non-Partisan and Democratic organizations sending mail telling people to vote, etc.

What a shitshow.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 39 points 7 hours ago

Also any organisations supporting birth control, trans people, and so on.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 29 points 7 hours ago

This time, 183 Democrats and one Republican voted against the bill, and only 15 Democrats voted for it—down from 52 last week. Since then, there’s been a full-court-press civil society campaign to take down H.R. 9495. Nearly 300 organizations—including the ACLU, the Sierra Club, the AFL-CIO, Planned Parenthood, and the NAACP—have signed a letter pointing out that Trump is likely to use this bill to silence any of his enemies, not just Palestinians and their supporters. As Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) pointed out, that could also include nonprofit news outlets.

Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) is one of the dozens of Democrats who flipped their vote on the bill since Trump’s election.

He gave a personal example of why. One of the organizations whose nonprofit status Trump wants to terminate, Doggett said, “has protested one of my speeches.”

God dammit, Texas.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 66 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

A terrorist organization under this bill is anyone that is a threat to Trump's authoritarian agenda.

With Harris in office it would have been anybody that protests for Palestinian rights, which also fucking sucks by the way.

It's a direct attack on the first amendment.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 43 points 8 hours ago

I guess the downvoters didn't bother to (or can't) read the article:

In the bill’s original iteration, it was popular among both Republicans and Democrats, who saw it as an appealing way to police Palestinian rights organizations after protests last year. An earlier version, in April, passed the House easily, with only 11 votes against the bill.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

i doubt they would have pushed this through if Harris was about to be president.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

The bill was unable to meet the two-thirds majority vote it needed to make it through the House last week. But, today, with only a simple majority vote required, the legislation passed the House in a 219–184 vote. This time, it garnered far less Democratic support than it had only days ago.

In the bill’s original iteration, it was popular among both Republicans and Democrats, who saw it as an appealing way to police Palestinian rights organizations after protests last year. An earlier version, in April, passed the House easily, with only 11 votes against the bill. It didn’t make it through the Senate and was reintroduced in the House this fall.

While the focus might have originally been to silence Pro-palestinian voices and non-profits, this affects all NGOs. That means, without any evidence whatsoever, the administration can declare any NGO a 'supporter of terrorism' and revote their tax-exempt states, completely crippling the NGO's funding if not the entire NGO. This is disastrous. Not only for pro-palestinian NGOs rightfully advocating against genocide, but every NGO that fights for human rights.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

They still wanted to push it through. Squashing non-profits that speak for the rights of Palestinians unfortunately is a bipartisan issue.

The DNC also primaried some vocal supporters of Palestinian rights. And it's likely no coincidence that the strategist that worked on Harris's campaign also works for the military industrial complex. Or that Biden is burning political capital going after Sanders for trying to put an end to military aid to Israel.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 39 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So now's the time for Democrats to use the filibuster they were so devoted to keeping.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, but just do it the Charlie Kelly way. Just say "FILIBUSTER" over and over and over.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago

The broader question I see here is "Why are Democrats supporting Trumps agenda?"

We're in a position where we're a few weeks out from the total collapse of the US political system as we know it and 15 Democrats still think its appropriate to cross the aisle.

We might be able to see this as a signal of things to come. Perhaps, expect Trump to get his agenda passed with the support of the Democrats.

I set up a survey for lemmy users here:

Given the opportunity, do you think Biden would veto bill HR 9495?

I'm interested if the community thinks this Biden would veto this bill or not.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Schumer will send this bill to Never Neverland. They will have to do it again next Congress.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I sure hope you're right considering some Dems in the house voted for it.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's why they voted for it. They knew it wouldn't go anywhere. They probably got something for it too.