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[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

I recently installed Linux because windows pissed me off and I laughed out loud at this..

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 27 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Windows 10 LTSC currently has an EoL date of 2027-01-12.

No store, no cortana, much less bullshit in general.
LTSC is the only current windows version I even remotely consider having.

[–] glitchy_nobody@leminal.space 36 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Paying Microsoft more money so they can give you less Windows is a very Microsoft thing to do.

I stopped paying Microsoft a long time ago.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'd bet this is pirateable tho

[–] glitchy_nobody@leminal.space 1 points 19 hours ago

Suit yourself, I don't trust Windows already so, adding a third-party to that process doesn't intrigue me in the slightest.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Windows 10 LTSC (Long-Term Servicing Channel) is a specialized version of Windows 10 that's all about reliability and stability. It’s tailored for specific use cases like medical devices, ATMs, industrial systems, and other environments where updates could mess with critical operations.

Key Points About Windows 10 LTSC: Minimal Updates: LTSC skips the frequent feature updates you see with regular Windows 10 and sticks to just security updates and critical fixes. Each version gets 10 years of support—5 years mainstream and 5 years extended. Stripped-Down Version: This version ditches all the extra stuff like Cortana, the Microsoft Store, Edge, and bundled games, making it lightweight and focused. Stability Above All: It’s designed to be rock-solid and isn’t about chasing the latest features. Release Schedule: New LTSC versions come out every 2-3 years, tied to specific Windows 10 feature updates (like Windows 10 LTSC 2021). Who It's For: It’s for specialized devices and setups where you can’t afford sudden changes. It’s not something you’d typically use on your daily home or work PC. How You Get It: LTSC is available through volume licensing and is really meant for businesses and enterprises. Misconceptions: It’s not for regular use, like avoiding updates or keeping things ultra-simple on a personal PC. It doesn’t support a lot of modern hardware and features, so unless you have a very specific need, you’re better off sticking with the regular versions of Windows 10.

If you’re thinking about LTSC, make sure it actually fits what you’re trying to do—its limitations could end up being a headache if you’re not using it in the right way.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Funny, when I think of Windows, reliability and stability are the last things on my mind. I mean, if they could build a reliable release then why isn't that shipped with all computers? You know, like with linux, the stable version is also the current release. Basically your description makes it sound like what's really making Windows so unreliable is all the crapware that Microsoft forces down your throat.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, exactly, because it’s all that crapware and bloatware that makes you inadvertently sign up for wholly unnecessary subscriptions to crap Services that nobody needs or wants. Plus all the advertisements. Lennox would seem to be a far better solution for a point of sale system or inventory management system or something like that

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a great sales pitch... "PoS machines, but unlike Windows-based devices ours continue to work after the first six months!"

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Wait...Wait a minute.... What about...MCDONALD'S ICE CREAM MACHINES?!?!?!

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If they switched to linux the ice cream would be colder and even smoother.

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[–] tarius@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago

And if you use IoT LTSC, its even more lean

[–] hitstun@fedia.io 13 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Has anybody found a way to turn Microsoft's ads off yet? I'm tired of dismissing their prompts to switch to Edge and Office 365 every few months.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Yes, but you won't like to hear it...

[–] hitstun@fedia.io 11 points 18 hours ago

sigh

gets his Ventoy USB drive ready for a new ISO...

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[–] Toes@ani.social 12 points 17 hours ago

As an experiment I revoked the certificate that is used for code verification on the executable responsible for the popups. So far the only thing I broke was the .net installer. But no more pop-ups. :D

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I run a local account and toggled off all the telemetry stuff during installation nine years ago. Never saw one of those. Didn't even get toggled on with updates. Only problem I had was Copilot getting added a few weeks ago. By that time, Win10 had become the compatibility fallback for Linux, though.

So, create a local account, go into Settings, and toggle off everything that could maybe be telemetry related.

[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm about to rebuild my dev box and I'm seriously considering a Kinoite host with a Windows 10 LTS guest. Anyone have a good Fedora-centric guide to kvm?

[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

On my kinoite computer i just create a fedora distrobox container, install qemu on it, and boot my vms off that, works quite well, no fiddling with the filesystem or systemd services

[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago

Ty! I'll do some research in that direction.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I hate how microsoft seems to think they own the term PC now and it can mean anything they want. Some of the "Copilot+ PCs" they're advertising on things like this have ARM CPUs which means they aren't PCs. I would even argue that a lot of x86 computers aren't PCs now because they only support UEFI booting so aren't PC compatible. They need to just call them computers or come up with a new term

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't PC just mean personal computer though?

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but ironically the PC was a reaction to the more authoritarian IBM server/terminal model. The PC was really about owning and being able to hack your own shit. It seems like cloud+device lockdown is just reinventing servers and terminals...

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

I mean, they're not called International Personal Machines, are they? The server-terminal system worked well for a large organisation, and it's not far away from how many companies still do things.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yup, I go out of my way to call any personal computer a PC. For example:

  • Macbook Pro PC running macOS for work
  • Thinkpad PC running Linux at home
  • desktop PC running Linux for gaming
  • desktop PC running Linux as a NAS
  • handheld PC running GrapheneOS for a phone
  • handheld PC running SteamOS for gaming
  • wearable PC running WearOS as a watch

They're all PCs, because I can run whatever I want on them. My Switch isn't a PC because I can't run whatever I want, but everything else in that list absolutely is. Yeah, I get weird looks sometimes, but I'm stubborn.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

have ARM CPUs which means they aren't PCs

Why on earth would architecture have anything to do with it?

only support UEFI booting so aren't PC compatible.

Oh wow, I don't think anyone using the term "PC" this century was referring to "IBM PC-Compatible" like it's 1981. The only vestages of that is that the term excludes Mac even today.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

They may not have realized it, but until UEFI-only computers started becoming common, people mostly were still effectively drawing the line at IBM compatibility

What's the fundamental difference between an Intel Macbook and my old 2018 Lenovo laptop? Either of them can run modern Windows, Linux, whatever. For most modern uses, they're basically equivalent. The one thing that makes the Lenovo different though is its firmware. The Lenovo has BIOS support and the Mac doesn't.

If you then add my current Framework laptop, which is UEFI-only, to the comparison though, it gets kind of fuzzy. It's clearly not a Mac, but what is there to really define it as a PC? It can't run MacOS, but that doesn't really work to separate it because plenty of PCs can run MacOS. It's not made by Apple, but if that's all it takes then is a Chromebook or one of the Talos POWER workstations a PC too? It's kind of hard to say the Framework is a PC without including so many other things that the term PC kind of loses all meaning.

I think the term PC has just outlived its usefulness and we need to move on to saying more specific things than that to describe computers. In most modern contexts, all that matters is what architecture a computer is and what operating systems will run on it, and PC just isn't really a great term to convey that information anymore.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 15 hours ago

PC = a computer that you use to do computer stuff on. Windows PC, Linux PC, MacBook or a Chromebook, it's all PC.

[–] FMEEE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 hours ago

Microsoft bl: "Jeah Buy a 100$ License hehe. Oh what you thought The Operating System is then centered around you the paying customer? Jeaaaah nope! We are MICROSOFT!!!

[–] ElvenMithril@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 21 hours ago

Microsoft sucks, but surely they have to know that already

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