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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I'd like the world to agree on at least all changing time on the same day or none at all. So we can just remember the offset to everywhere else just once.

There will be people who prefer reasonably early sunrise to pleasantly late sunset, and we could shift office hours 1/2 hour or so to adapt for people on edge of time zones.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 12 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I don't care whether we pick Standard Time or Daylight Savings Time or create a new timezone that splits the difference, but we should choose one and stick with it.

Part of the problem is that the timezone boundaries have been distorted out of their proper geographical shape by politics, so one or the other edge of each distorted timezone always has some desynchronization between wall-clock time and sun position. Which edge it is varies depending on whether ST or DST is currently in force.

Or, we could just completely decouple the wall clock from solar time and put everyone on UTC. It makes synchronizing long-distance travel and communications much easier, and if the clock happens to say "5:00PM" or "7:00AM" when the sun is high in the sky and you're eating lunch, what does that really matter? Unfortunately, there are some people who seem unable to accept that the number on the clock is arbitrary.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago

China, as big as it is, has only one time zone lol.

I'm down with UTC, but make it 24 hours, not AM and PM. Because not everyone will have the same 'mid-day'.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I don't care what numbers the clock show I don't want to have to addapt to waking up one hour earlier or later than before. It messes with my internal clock and makes me not want to wake up or wake up too early for at least a month or two after each change.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I hate being in a time zone where in winter, the sun comes 7:00 and sets at 16:00..

Most of us have 9-5 jobs. I'd rather have the sun up around 8 and still have some tiny sliver of light when i leave the office

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Supposedly waking up with the sun is healthier than waking up in the dark, but I agree with you, I basically never see the sun in winter so it defeats the purpose.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago

blablabla QuΓ©bec will change it when NY state change it, and Ontario will change it too the minute NY change it.

Provinces will never do a move by themselves.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Daylght Savings time would be better for BC, having standard all year would mean sunrise just after 3am in summer.

[–] tarsn@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

As opposed to 4 am? Who cares at that point

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Because I want that hour after work not before I wake up

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I am also a fan of permanent DST as it would give more evening light in the winter, but would begrudgingly accept permanent standard time as it's still better than the clock-switching we do now

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Standard time is better for the health of the population, especially in teens. There's a ton of research on the subject.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But standard time gives different hours based on your lat/long position. Eastern has about 45 min later daylight, western has 45 min earlier sunrise. So one standard doesn't give all provinces the same daylight range, it is shifted

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Eastern has about 45 min later daylight, western has 45 min earlier sunrise.

opposite

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You do realize it is an osculating wave of longer and shorter.. The absolute statements people make and the difference the 1 hour makes to a typical person often only last 1 month tops.

Like in the winter O yes I have an hour of sunlight before work, two weeks later as the days continue to get shorter, it is dark at the start of day and dark at the end of the work day.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Winter is a write off in BC, being a rainforest climate it is overcast blanket of cloud or raining for 90% of the winter months, sun doesn't show itself. But for summer we have especially early sunrise, and I would like that shifted to the evening when it is useful. (I realize is fluctuates but whether that is 3am sun or 5am sun, screw that put that at end of day)

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't care if it is permanent daylight time or permanent standard time just stop flipping the clock twice a year.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 minutes ago