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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If anything modern day santa is more of an invention of Coca-Cola than Christianity or Paganism.

Santa isn't red and white for no reason

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

Santa is pagan, they put that dude on cereal boxes.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's always baffling how people can define something as unacceptable. Says who? You? Who are you to just make that decision so unilaterally?

You can have your opinion, but it's just that.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And their opinion is that this is unacceptable and outrageous.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess. The way it's formulated purposefully removes them from the statement, though.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That's how it always goes. It's not that I'm offended. Is that it is offensive, objectively. It's silly.

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[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's more infuriating is that they immediately gave in and removed it without any discussion

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[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait till they see the vlc logo during christmas ...

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly it switches to this logo during christmas

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 16 points 1 day ago

Anyone else get the urge to pull the hat down?

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 246 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Christmas is no longer a holiday that honors the Christian god, it's a holiday that honors the god of capitalism, money.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I just use it to have a merry time with my family. Corporations try to co-opt everything; Christmas is no different. Is Pride about honoring greed and capitalism just because companies make everything rainbow? No, and neither is Christmas even though they try their best with that too. The only difference is buying gifts, but Christmas is about more than that, and homemade gifts are always an option.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Cool, so it's still worth eschewing /s

I would like to note though that xmas is a very sore time of year for a lot of people (mostly queer, but others too) who do not have a good relationship with their family

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's why I think it's important that we bring Christmas back to its true religious roots: Fertility, hunting, and maybe a cult of the dead.

Well, that and I just kind of want to piss off all of my pearl clutching relatives.

But seriously, thank you for the reminder that this can be a particularly hard season.

I hope your solstice is marked by good times with real friends and chosen family.

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We've stopped with presents in my family, except for the kids. And they don't get showered in them, a few things they really want, preferably cheap. Everyone else just wants nice food and family coziness.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 80 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What religious symbol? Saint Nicholas had nothing to do with the fat guy dressed in red that coca cola made up. The hat is fine goddammit

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Isn't capitalism a religion?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Cult of the line must go up

[–] josefo@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago
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[–] geogle@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, they took inspiration from Clement Clarke Moore's (1922) "Twas the night before Christmas" and illustrations from Thomas Nast (1881) showing him in red with the sack over his shoulder. Certainly, Coca Cola has solidified the modern image with their ad campaign though starting in 1931. Src

[–] josefo@leminal.space 7 points 1 day ago

TIL coca cola didn't create it, ty

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 114 points 2 days ago (10 children)

And spawned an even longer shit fit.

Some people just want to be offended and we should simply let them.

[–] Ansis100@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Love the fact that this spawned new issues complaining about the debugger icon promoting violence against insects.

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Wait, did I read that correctly and they replaced the hat with a snowflake?? Hahahaha

And yes, people often forget that generally offense is taken. When it's intentionally given, it's pretty clear.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 102 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I'm from Australia and snowflakes during December is hemispherist and offensive to us down under.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago

they replaced the hat with a snowflake?

As someone from the global south i find the snowflake in winter offensive!

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[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ what is wrong with people... Microsoft giving in to a clear troll, surprised they didn't just lock and ignore that shit and move on.

[–] BangersAndMash@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ is not my Lord and saviour. I demand you delete this post immediately and apologise. This is as insulting to me as pineapple on a pizza

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[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

I hope they never walk past a church…

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 58 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Christmas is religion yes, but Santa doesn't really have anything to do with religion other than being on Christmas right?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 41 points 2 days ago

Yea, Santa is the more secular icon. There are even Christians that take issue with the Santa character (which is a combination of "Pagan" and Christian mythos). I put Pagan in quotes, as that's a Christian term for certain non-Christian beliefs.

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[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

Sing along kids! Mr. Ghosty the Christmas troll...

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t think an actual Jew would equate a religious symbol with a swastika

But I do agree that religious imagery should never be in public

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

Or equate a santa hat to a religious symbol.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't think Santa = swastika but it is super tiresome when Halloween ends and suddenly there's Christmas shit everywhere. I know it's more a factor of capitalism than Christianity, but it even infects the meager Hanukkah end caps we get. There's frequently products being sold that are clearly just Christmas goods painted blue and white (argh) paraded around as Hanukkah goods. Fuckin blue and white pine tree tchotchkes? C'mon what the fuck is that? Hell, one year I saw "chocolate Maccabes" which were literally just chocolate Santa candies in a different foil.

It's all expected, it happens every year (though the holiday seems to take up more of the calendar each year), but damn is it tiresome. And don't get me started on the music!

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's true that Christians have killed more people and commited more genocides, and are obsessed with putting their religion in everything... I think I'm on the side of this guy tbh

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Of course you are...

[–] Senal@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an organisation they have historically been and continue to be, truly shitty.

But what are you using for sources here ?

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[–] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

omg this is the person who deleted all their files on accident lol

edit: nevermind

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 54 points 2 days ago (4 children)

ghost is just GitHub's way of saying deleted user.

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