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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 141 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lost the ones more easily duped by soundbites of lies.

"I love the poorly educated!" -Trump, 2/2016

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's too bad she didn't offer any soundbites of truth. Her entire campaign was built around being inoffensive to everyone which meant saying nothing that might evoke meaning. Lies thrive in that environment.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The ones that get their information from places like Fox, Threads, Facebook, Nextdoor, X, etc.

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[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 65 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I have spoken to two kinds of voters.

First off, was my dad. He never ever voted in his life. This was his first year of voting and he went Harris. Simply because he knew enough of what she was about and liked her character.

Meanwhile, the other party was my formerly adoptive mother. She voted Trump because "I just don't like the other party". That was her only reason. And that was just simply dishonest and uneducated.

So, it is possible that someone is capable of just even doing the tiniest research can give you an idea of who to vote for.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (32 children)

No, SHE didn't.

Corporate News Fucked Up Again.

For some reason all the headlines about this seem to be about what the DNC or the Harris campaign should have done.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Democrats ran another perfect losing campaign. Some people might say that losing makes a campaign definitionally imperfect, but that's only sane people.

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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you sell all of the major news outlets to billionaires - they publish pro billionaire propaganda

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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think it's fair to just dump all the blame on corporate media. The news media landscape hasn't meaningfully changed since Trump was first elected, but despite having 8 years to formulate a sound media strategy the DNC is still campaigning like it's 2015.

Like, sure, the Democrats are running with a handicap in the current media landscape, but that isn't new, and it's the responsibility of the DNC to figure out how to overcome that disadvantage — a task that the current leadership has proven itself woefully incompetent at.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Yeah but like, it's a bit crazy that the right has: Fox News, OAN, NewsMax (or whatever it's called), Joe Rogan Experience (gateway drug/sanewashing), Benny Shaps network, X, Truth Social, Prager U, Tim's Pool, right wing radio, and lots of other smaller shops and they all seem to claim corporate media is the worst and they're all here to tell you the truth.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes. Add to that that they have no ethics, and will say and do anything.

People on the left tend to actually adhere to their moral and ethical framework, which immediately puts us at a massive disadvantage against the dirty cheaters.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The news media landscape hasn't meaningfully changed since Trump was first elected

I think that's the heart of the issue. Yes, DNC should have figured out away around all corporate media outlets but that's an enormous, unbelievable ask.

Yes, the DNC should be mobile, and memeable, and . . . fuck, I dunno - on 3.14chan or whatever, but at the end of the day they still have to rely on the fucking Today Show and NBC Nightly News and the motherfucking New York Times to carry their message without shitting on it - which they absolutely will. never. do.

The right has poured hundreds of billions into this since the mid-90s. The left has no fucking clue. Despite having all the academics and content creators telling them what to do. It's time to put a fist in the face of corporate news. Sweet talking has gotten us a fascist dictator.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

For some reason all the headlines about this seem to be about what the DNC or the Harris campaign should have done.

Wait...

You're surprised people are blaming the candidate that lost and her campaign team that was paid millions of dollars and spent over a billion and still couldn't beat trump?

Why?

What is the logic where the people whose literal job was to win the election, aren't at fault for losing the election?

And I'm scared to even ask, but:

Since you think they're blameless, does that mean you really want us to do the same shit in four years again and hope this time screaming at people will be effective?

Cuz buddy, it's never been effective at anything besides letting some shitty republican into the Oval

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[–] WingedObsidian@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Can’t forget when I overheard someone say, “when was Biden is not running for president” as Trumps was announced he was president elect…

Democracy dies in ignorance

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