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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think it's fair to just dump all the blame on corporate media. The news media landscape hasn't meaningfully changed since Trump was first elected, but despite having 8 years to formulate a sound media strategy the DNC is still campaigning like it's 2015.

Like, sure, the Democrats are running with a handicap in the current media landscape, but that isn't new, and it's the responsibility of the DNC to figure out how to overcome that disadvantage — a task that the current leadership has proven itself woefully incompetent at.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah but like, it's a bit crazy that the right has: Fox News, OAN, NewsMax (or whatever it's called), Joe Rogan Experience (gateway drug/sanewashing), Benny Shaps network, X, Truth Social, Prager U, Tim's Pool, right wing radio, and lots of other smaller shops and they all seem to claim corporate media is the worst and they're all here to tell you the truth.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

They could start by shedding any hope of capturing those voters. I can tell you with 100% certainty, based on trump being a convicted felon, there is no attack that will flip them. You have to reach outside current demos and bring your message to them. If they can't learn this obvious fact thats been lingering for 8 years (shoot someone on mainstreet) they are useless as a political power.

Next is the message. Obviously it has to be about change. Where Harris again failed by clinging to bidens record. The DNC needed to drop current dogmas and level. They would have started by talking like a normal fucking human who doesnt have a scripted line and strategy for everything. Then they would lay out the facts. This is what 'government can do' and this is what 'government can't do'. This is what YOU the voters need to do to get governement to do what YOU want. Then address what they want! FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE. THEN LAY THEM WITH THE FUCKING PEOPLES ELBOW. "THE PEOPLE HAVE TO BLOW UP THE POLLS TO GET THE FREEDOM OF FINCIAL INDEPENDENCE, IF THERE ISNT COMPLETE HEDGEMONY IN ALL BRANCHES OF GOVERNEMNT THERE WILL NEVER BE MEANINGUFL CHANGE."

Promise fincaial independence, promise people will never get it if they don't show. Then we either got as far as the line, "I own a gun" or the people show up. Either way, you ran an honest, noble campaign.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes. Add to that that they have no ethics, and will say and do anything.

People on the left tend to actually adhere to their moral and ethical framework, which immediately puts us at a massive disadvantage against the dirty cheaters.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget Sinclair Broadcasting. They're the local branch of the right wing propaganda machine.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fuck Reagan and his deregularion.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's crazier is when WB bought CNN and literally said Faux News was the plan for what they wanted to do, and loads of journalists resigned from CNN over the changes...

People still think any media organization owned by billionaires has a chance to be "on the left".

If a billionaire (or group of billionaires) own a media company, it's only to manipulate people into blaming anyone except billionaires for the current state of affairs.

Like, it's great you're realizing it now...

But the merger was two years ago..

https://www.vox.com/2022/8/26/23322761/cnn-john-malone-david-zaslav-chris-licht-brian-stelter-fox-peter-kafka-column

None of this was done in the shadows, they came right out and said it. Publicly and repeatedly.

What you want to happen is happening. The Dems are getting their own versions of that shit.

The problem is they're getting it for the same reason: to trick us into voting against our own interests.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

What you want to happen is happening. The Dems are getting their own versions of that shit.

The news could literally just use the same standards for both political parties and treat significant news with the stress it deserves regardless of parties and they would already look like left-wing lunatics.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The news media landscape hasn't meaningfully changed since Trump was first elected

I think that's the heart of the issue. Yes, DNC should have figured out away around all corporate media outlets but that's an enormous, unbelievable ask.

Yes, the DNC should be mobile, and memeable, and . . . fuck, I dunno - on 3.14chan or whatever, but at the end of the day they still have to rely on the fucking Today Show and NBC Nightly News and the motherfucking New York Times to carry their message without shitting on it - which they absolutely will. never. do.

The right has poured hundreds of billions into this since the mid-90s. The left has no fucking clue. Despite having all the academics and content creators telling them what to do. It's time to put a fist in the face of corporate news. Sweet talking has gotten us a fascist dictator.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean... bernies doing it. Dude is like 80 and is absolutely idolised by the younger generation and regular middle and lower class people because he seems to actually practice what he preaches and is genuinely interested in what's good for people. Most politicians to me just give the impression of seeking politics to enrich themselves and clasping onto power to avoid losing that even when their senile and completely incapable of fulfilling their role.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Bernie’s got an app?