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Ramaswamy wants to defund unauthorized government programs - like veteran healthcare (www.independent.co.uk)

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Summary

Vivek Ramaswamy, recently appointed to lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has proposed defunding federal programs that lack current congressional authorization.

This could affect programs like veterans’ healthcare, NASA, and early education initiatives, which still receive funding despite expired authorizations.

Ramaswamy argues that cutting these programs could save billions, and he’s committed to targeting expenditures that “don’t advance the interests of American citizens.”

DOGE, co-led by Elon Musk, aims to curb government spending, with Musk estimating potential cuts of up to $2 trillion.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do it. Cut tricare too. I don’t want those things gone, but holy hell yes please eliminate the willingness of the military to aid you against the constitution. Defund barrack improvements and force married troops to bring their spouses into the barracks while you’re at it.

Crash and burn and let us rebuild America with an understanding it wasn’t immigrants or trans people that did this, it was rich people and fascists.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago

As a former military child, I largely agree with cutting tricare. It's pretty good, and military people take for granted that they get socialized Healthcare but not the rest of us. Yeah, "serving the country" and all that, but most military personnel aren't doing anything that anyone else isn't doing. Most military personnel are not in combat roles. Everyone should be treated well because everyone benefits the nation. Take away the socialized healthcare of the military and vets and maybe we'll get socialized healthcare in general.

I doubt this will work, but it'll at least force military people to come to terms with the fact they have socialized healthcare and how well it works. My dad at least used to argue with me whenever I called it that. I'm not sure if he still thinks it isn't true. I'm sure other people haven't even considered that that's what it is.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Elon musk being like "all that money we're spending on vets could be going into my pockets."

[–] jas0n@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

The status quo is just a lot more visible, now.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 39 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This will piss off every single veteran, active service member, and their relatives. I don't just want this shit to fail, I want people to remember just how little fucks these people give about anyone other than themselves.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 days ago

Republicans have been cutting vet benefits for years, and it hasn’t stopped them from voting red yet.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I want to see these fucks do this then ask for the military to keep them in office when they violate the constitution

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

I kinda have lost faith in most of humanity. At this point I think they will follow orders without question while fully knowing that they will be thrown aside like a moldy bag of garbage as soon as their usefulness is done.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you hear back well they did not realize... you answer with yes, this is how little they care

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This is amazing. Good. Fuck the troops. Let's see you garrison your military bases in every other country in the world, losers. You can't even meet recruiting goals now!

[–] uis@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Then do universal healthcare, right? Right?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Universally leave you to die if you don't pay, sure.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Typo. Then, not they.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

If they really go whole hog and sell off the hospitals and stuff then I would think the next president would just go to a Veteran's Public Option. There's a world in which 5 years from now we prove Medicare for All works because they deleted the entire side of the VA that does healthcare.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Shameless, veterans risk their lives for their country, the least the govt can do is give them healthcare

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for veterans, they aren't risking their lives for their country. They're risking their lives for the special interests of corporate oligarchs who couldn't care less about them.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I know but that’s a hard sell for poor young recruits, if they knew this more they’d charge like mercenaries

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How is veteran healthcare unauthorized?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It was authorized, but it had an expiration date. Now it's something that we just take for granted so much we never even thought about having to re-authorize it.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

OIC. Well snowballs chance when orange twit assumes the throne

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Really surprised he’s the first republican to try cutting it. They’ve been going after vets for years.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It's a political hand grenade. Of course Trump is the only one willing or able to eat it.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

FWIW, this breaks from the Two Santas Strategy. This Santa is suppose to be funding things conservatives want, while at the same time reducing taxes (on the rich), thereby driving the deficit up without making their voters mad. If you actually cut funding for a bunch of stuff people rely on, you will earn the ire of the voters, that's why no one ever does it.

Yeah, there will be a core of people who will defend Trump and Musk to their self-inflicted death, but those people are in the minority. Most Americans (and most people in the world) voted against the incumbent this year because they were unfortunately there during a time of inevitable inflation. And they'll do it again if their lives continue to get materially worse over the next few years.

I can't help but wonder how we would be sitting right now if Trump had won in 2020. But we're due for a generational crisis, and I don't think that wouldn't have been nearly as exciting.

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Optics of cutting the programs aside, it's criminal that beneficial programs like these don't get re-authorized.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No exceptionalism for war criminals. Get in line like the rest.

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