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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 118 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I wouldn't mind having the ability to schedule a reboot on my phone as an extra precaution.

[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 68 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think graphene does this by default now? Like if you don't unlock it for 24 hours it'll reboot.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

18 hours by default.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Its an aosp feature i believe, but its disabled on many phones. Graphene and calyx have it. With calyx its default off, but you can set it between 1 and 72 hours. Very handy feature.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Graphene is set to reboot after six hours of inactivity, ensuring that it reboots every night after I've gone to bed.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It probably requires root, but I'm sure Tasker can do this.

Really, all phones should have the option to reboot into locked mode on certain conditions like being taken out of network or being unattended for a while.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The interesting thing is if the manufacturer is shipping them that way by default.

[–] intresteph@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Could possibly also look at the motion sensors to see if it is in a pocket moving around or if it was sitting around for a while.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Good idea, but a motivated attacker could put them on one of those rocker tables like they use for mixing blood. It also wouldn't cover the more common scenario of someone stealing it out of your hand.

[–] mbtrhcs@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a shortcut action to shut down the phone which you could trigger with an automation, I suppose.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I can put the phone in lockdown by press-holding the power button and select the "lockdown" option. Not bad, but an actual reboot daily at night wouldn't be so bad.

[–] mbtrhcs@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not what I mean, I'm talking about the Shortcuts app:

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This had never occurred to me before but it’s great, thanks! I expect that alarms don’t run until after first unlock, so 3am wouldn’t be great if I use the phone to wake up but later in the morning should be good.

[–] mbtrhcs@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I believe it should still work, as alarms trigger for me even if my phone updated overnight or I put it on the charger dead before going to sleep, but I'll have to test it

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

GrapheneOS has the option for a scheduled reboot if the phone hasn't been unlocked for a configurable amount of time.

[–] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dont know what lhone you are speaking of, but on Samsung phones, the only thing that this does is disabling biometrics and notifications. Your phone stays in AFU and this does not protect you from law enforcement or other

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It protects you from being compelled to provide biometrics to unlock the device. Since the courts have made a distinction between providing a password and biometrics to unlock devices for whatever asinine reason.

[–] morriscox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Biometrics are what you have and a password is what you know. I can record you and look at you or even grab a part of your body (e.g., for fingerprints) but it's not possible to read your mind.

[–] kopasz7@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I thought it's a standard feature (auto restart at set times). Maybe a samsung thing and not android.

[–] Anteater7369@kbin.earth 6 points 2 weeks ago

GrapheneOS has an option to reboot your phone after being locked for X hours.

[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Check out GrapheneOS.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hardly ever have I seen an article so full of "could be", "alledgedly", "supposed", "likely", and "probably".

It may be because I have stopped reading about UFO's after the age of 15.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because they have no actual proof of it, and direct evidence against it. They talk about phones communicating with each other to restart... yet a phone inside a faraday box restarted.

It's almost certainly just a software bug in iOS which is why it's inconsistent.

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's also the most unlikely explanation of all, that phones brought in communicated with the ones in custody to reboot them. Even if it was a security feature to reboot phones under certain conditions, which is very likely TBH graphene OS does this, the best implementation isn't going to be relying on other phones randomly passing near by, it's going to be self-managed by the phone that reboots.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

A remote command from some random phone to reboot does sound like the a wonderful vector for malware, though

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That would be super cool if that was a feature instead of a bug because anything that makes law enforcement's job harder is worth praising and doing properly.

[–] banana@communick.news 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

GrapheneOS includes this feature

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be nice if this feature did not disable immediately if you turned it off and would require like say 48 hours and two more reboot cycles. That way if a cop took your phone from you and had it and went into the settings and turned the feature off it still wouldn't work.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or just require your Apple password to turn it off.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just heard this like yesterday or today and so that's absolutely amazing. I don't think lineage has it though, which is sad. Although it is less useful on lineage since you can't re-lock boot loaders.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, LOL. That is literally the only exception to that I know of.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, seems like a reboot every 24 hours you're not unlocked would be extremely useful

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Aren’t iPhones switching from AFU to BFU if you don’t unlock them long enough anyway? Or is BFU not the same state as entered if lock and volume down button are pressed for some time?

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Spectrism@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

BFU = Before First Unlock
AFU = After First Unlock

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

My phone rebooted occasionally on iOS18 and this was mentioned as fixed in 18.1 release notes so this story sounds plausible.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ha.

This is the only good thing about Apple products. Yes, the only one.