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I will preface this by saying I understand that I am more radical, revolutionary, and extreme of a leftist than most. Despite that, I still ask that you actually engage with this as I'm asking in good faith.

When is enough enough? We have elected a fascist into the highest office and handed the keys to him and his friends. Is now not the time to actually get organized, involved, and armed? In my opinion, the time for peaceful, democratic means of avoiding fascism was before the election. But we have failed to do so, and as such there will soon be a tyrant in power. Are we going to wait until troops are rolling down the street to stage any form of resistance, because by then it's far too late. Now I want to be clear that I am not advocating for random acts of violence or an insurrection like January 6th. But is this not a point of radicalization? Is this not where we start organizing within our communities and getting involved in mutual aid and resistance? How much more do we need before people are actually ready to stand, fight, and maybe even die to avoid continuing down the path that we are on? Fascism is not on the horizon, it is here. Are we really to do nothing about it as a society except lay down and accept our fate? Because that doesn't jive with me. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

ETA: To the people responding, I will admit that I was heated and frustrated when writing this post. Having had time to cool off, reflect, and get some differing viewpoints my stance has changed to focus more on what needs to happen first and what's practical. You may have seen that in my responses. That being said, I don't disagree with what I said here, and I'm still frustrated we're at this point at all. I've linked a comment though that elaborates upon what I actually want to see done though, which is a lot more reasonable and is still inline with this post.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13305217

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

When it becomes a direct mild inconvenience, people will be fed up, maybe.

In real terms, we still have a lot left to lose before things get so bad it's time to take up arms. The left is losing because it has spent all of its time responding to what the right has been doing and not enough time working towards the things their constituents want.

It is time to organize and get directly involved if you care about keeping things from getting worse. I can't say this with any authority but there are three problems we have to solve:

  1. How can we reestablish a common reality with our neighbors? (Mis- and disinformation)
  2. How can we pull our neighbors back from the influence of fascists?
  3. How can we ensure that our children inherit better than what we have now and are about to go through?

The fight will come later, and it will come. Right now we have to prioritize supporting each other. We're on our own for at least the next two years, we need to get creative and find ways to thrive in spite of the bullshit.

I disagree with violence until the elections are no longer free and fair.

Well its not exactly fair since the corporate media is siding with trump and sane-washing him, but elections are still, for the most part, legitimate.

Meaning, a majority of people actually support trump.

If you want to violently rebel, know that the people who didnt vote are mot gonna join your violent revolt.

If every Harris voter fight every Trump voter, they have a bigger number.

Besides, they have control of the military soon.

Dont destroy the system that still allows for elections until those elections have proven to be illegitimate.

Nobody knows who will rise out of the ashes of a revolt. You might end up with something worse.

[–] AresUII@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

If I smelled burning flesh near a prison I'd have to kill myself right then.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm armed, and competent with arms.

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