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I highly doubt the left will do anything uncivil. How can they win back the country? Is it too late?

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

you organize to pressure the burgeoise, as always, because they are the ones funding every winning political candidate.

except for americans fascism seem to be tolerable but god forbid you learn from marxism and socialism.

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

"Americans" did win their country back. We aren't welcome in it anymore.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Maybe Biden could pack the Supreme Court before leaving office.

It wouldn't be a great idea in the long run, but it'd potentially stop the entire system from functioning right now.

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[–] humblebun@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago

How do North Koreans win their country back?

How do Chinese win their country back?

How do Russians win their country back?

How do Hungarians win their country back?

How do Iranians win their country back?

How do South Koreans win their country back?

[–] iii@mander.xyz 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you mean by "win back"?

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

They're trying to get liberals banned by coaxing out suggestions of terrorism

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 23 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Americans HAVE their country, this is what they want, this is what they voted for. Stop treating Americans as if this is something pressed upon them. They chose this. Now they will live with the consequences.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let the loud mouthed Marxists finally carry out the revolution they've been babbling about for the past 10 years. Oh wait...

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[–] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Education, unfortunately those in the most need of it are out of an educational institution so they will only be fed on a diet of commercialism and disinformation.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Some children really did get left behind

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago

Who knows. Apparently half my country is full of legitimately hateful people who just want to watch the people they don't like suffer.

How the fuck do we come back from that? Honestly, are we even worth redeeming?

For me, this is it. This is when America died. If you're still "proud" to be an American after this, you're brain-damaged.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Even if it was to get uncivil, the side with guns in now in charge

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have guns on the left, too. We just aren't as masturbatory about them.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're notoriously easy to get.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not when the past 50 years have been so it's harder and harder for the people the current rulers don't like don't get guns

Literally the prison system was made so those who object now legally can't buy guns

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, prison system was made to keep slavery legal, disenfranchisement is just a bonus.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't. It was never their country to begin with, clearly.

The majority of the U.S. has been racist, bigoted, misogynists from the beginning. Hell, the entire electoral college system that just fucked everyone over is a compromise that was put into place because a bunch of rich white landowners in the Antebellum south couldn't stand the idea of freed black men's votes having as much power as theirs. So they immediately rigged the system to keep them in control of who gets power because you better believe no black man was ever going to be an elector.

That is who your country is. There was a brief period from the 60s to the 80s where it became declasse to be an asshole, and so they mostly shut up during that time when they were in public, and then went home and took out their frustration by beating their wives and kids.

Then along came the modern republican party, who began to tear down that cloak of respectability, and it emboldened all of those wife beating shit-heads to say "Hey...we can be assholes again...go us."

This is your America. It always has been. I'm sorry if that hurts. I really am. But right now I'm also goddamned angry at your country on behalf of my country and all the others that have to be caught in the blast.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

By watering the tree of liberty?

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[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I think that first you have to start by admitting two things:

  1. Americans did win their/your election
  2. Americans have l9st faith in their democratic institutions

After that, you can look at why the Democratic parties fail to appeal to Americans, and try to reform them.

If you go outside of democracy to gain democracy, then you probably lose what's left of your democracy.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We engage in democracy.

Harris was a terrible candidate who was forced into the race. I was hoping she could pull it off but it's pretty clear that what we needed was for Biden to step down before the primary so that we could have a real election.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I majority of Americans think thats what theyve just done.

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[–] Modva@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Most Americans like and support Trump. That IS America.

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[–] figjam@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Win it back from who?

Other Americans who made this choice know who Trump is and thats what they want.

The Rich have always owned this country. No one is taking anything from them. Its illegal to try.

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