Lol! Oh no pwease don't hurt PiPi's feefees.
this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2024
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Weak and unimaginative.
Don't get rid of Trudeau! All my campaign, and my party's policies in general, are about how he's the Aunty Christ!! Without him, we've got nothing!!
The Republican playbook
I was already in favor of Trudeau stepping aside to let someone else run, but this has convinced me even more that this is the right direction for the Liberals. It would instantly invalidate the years worth of vitriol the conservatives have fomented towards Trudeau personally (see the "fuck Trudeau" merch) and send them scrambling to drum up the same amount of baseless hate towards whoever runs in his place. Personally, I think this is the best play the Liberals have, and a masterful way to make the Cons look like they have no platform other than outrage.
Strategically, I think the Liberals should be waiting until as close as possible to the election call. It stops the conservatives having time to pivot to a campaign strategy that isn't "Trudeau Bad"
I think doing it that way would depend on who becomes leader of the party after JT. If they pull someone who doesn't have a history within the party, then it nulls PP's ability to play his stupid game.
That is why I still think Mark Carney would be a great choice.
I agree.
Thanks for the weed, Trudeau. You were an ok PM but it’s time to move on.
Maybe the next guy will fulfill your promise of election reform.
Is he going to start claiming the election is rigged next?
This guy isn’t even in power and I’m already tired of his shit.
"Get rid of Trudeau! Wait, no, not like that, my entire electability is based on hating him!"
Hate and outrage is all Conservatives have.
Just another instance of US politics leaking over to Canada a few months later.
Unfair for what, Pierre?
The Liberals are morally obligated to let the Conservatives glide into power, it's only fair?
It's unfair that the Liberals choosing a new leader would weaken your one-trick "axe the tax, Fuck Trudeau" campaign? That's what's called a "skill issue", bud.
This is ripped straight from not just the Republican playbook but from the book of Trump ass-wipes also.
It would be helpful if we started calling the "playbook" out for what it actually is.
This is the Fascist play book being used by the right wing globally to establish theocratic dictatorships. Even with countless books on the subject, pointing the tactics out explicitly, people still fall for the same shit that has seen countless dictators gain power.
Which is why it is so important to call out this non sense for what it actually is. Fascism is alive and well, gaining more ground daily, and needs to be spoken about in the most blunt way possible.
Aw, poor little Pierre is afraid he's going to have to come up with some new rhetoric. I am too lazy to even bother to dig up the tardigrade-with-violin pic in response to this.
Just happen to have that handy for you.
Yup, that's exactly the one, thanks.
I was under the impression that the Liberals, specifically Trudeau, are so corrupt we need an election this very moment to save Canada.
Weird how suddenly the "most corrupt Prime Minister in Canadian history" has a moral obligation to continue being the "most corrupt Prime Minister in Canadian history".
They are call "Cons" for a reason and it isn't because of a shortened party name.
"Poilievre said he prefers that I stay as Prime Minister." Imagine if Justin Trudeau says that line and then refers to the broadcast.
Giving the highest possible benefit of the doubt - what could Poilievre's angle possibly be by saying this? What does he think it gains him?
Wouldn't a better political move be to say something like "run whoever you want. x, y, and z policies are what matter and that's what our party is going to fight for"? I mean, even if it's a lie, wouldn't that be a much more politically savvy thing to say? Off the top of my head I can think of 3 or 4 other angles to take that seem a lot better than "the Liberals have a moral responsibility to keep their current leader". That's like, high school debate level shit.
Poilievre has been on Parliament Hill for 20 years. I'm just continually baffled by what appear to me to be obvious blunders in a game he should know very well. Is there something I'm missing?
edit: Is it possible that this is an ego thing for Poilievre? Is there some thread here that, he wanted to be the one to take down Trudeau, and if internal Liberal party operations accomplish that instead, that takes away some kind of marquee victory that Poilievre wanted for himself?
My assumption is that this angle is the easiest to get people to be angry about. Most of his platform is getting people angry about things that don't exist or excited about solutions that won't solve anything. IMO getting people to be angry about a leadership change is more of the same.
Could be. Even then, it's still so odd. He's in this political win-win situation, where he has an advantage if Trudeau stays on, and he has an advantage if the Liberals make a last-minute change and roll into the election (that we all know is lingering) with an untested newbie.
Although, the CPC and Poilievre didn't earn this excellent spot on the chessboard by any strategic triumph, so maybe it's not so surprising that he appears to have no idea how to work the pieces.
Honestly I make the same assumption about a lot of his positions. Much of what he says or suggests policy wise doesn't hold up if you dig into it. So why say it in the first place?
Most of the platform is being built on people being angry and not understanding the systems that are being talked about.
From that perspective it makes sense that they need to continue to feed lies, half-truths and other nonsense to keep people angry.
Could he be any more of a Little Trump?
EDIT: He made the same mistake that The Mandarin Mussolini did. Pee Pee's entire platform is, "I wil magically fix everything that you're irrationally angry about" and, "I am not Justin Trudeau." When Justin Trudeau is gone his replacement is going to come out saying, "Here's how I'm going to fix things." and Pee Pee is not going to have a response other than, "Mr./Ms.They X staged a coup against Justin Trudeau!"
It's so fucking tiresome.
What's really tiresome, and frankly depressing, is the amount of people who get conned by this shit. And they are so entrenched, it's impossible to either reason or even empathize with them. It's a brain disease. A cancer on our society, and we are all going to pay the price because of it.
Yeah, he could refuse to finish even a single thought.
He could wear a red ~~MACA~~ MCGA baret constantly.
Could actually be MCA - Make Canada America.
Make America Canada Again?
PeePee would look even worst with a beret, it would do much good to his public image in my opinion!
It's too fucking early in the morning. I meant MCGA but wording not good.
Pierre's such a fucking rat. I'm really scared for the election, because he's projected a majority right now and god, we cannot afford a conservative majority right now..
I'm with you on this, but don't forget that most polling companies are run by conservative sympathizers. Angus Reid was reposting anti-Trudeau posts on twitter only a week ago. Quito Maggi, head of Mainstreet Research, was actively trying to sabotage Naheed Nenshi's re-election campaign a few years ago.
And the media...well, pretty much all of the print media is owned by Postmedia which in turn is owned by a MAGA-loving US hedge fund.
Don't despair - fight.
How many times have the Conservatives swapped out their leader lately? They can’t keep someone as leader for more than 20min and now they’re whining?
God, what a bunch of weak little babies. Weird little selfish morons. Stupid, worthless assholes.
I agree it wouldn’t be fair. What will merchants do with their containers of unsold Fuck Trudeau merch?
"Fairness" has got nothing to do with politics, and Poilievre knows that and utilizes it in his politics every single day.
Taking a page from Mitch McConnel's playbook. Don't fall for it
PP just being the whiny asshole he is.