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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

America: Wait... Don't sell weapons? Like I shouldn't? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Holy hell the guys in Congress are going to love this joke!

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

That's what we have when we have spineless cowards sitting in the White House, imagine thinking they are progressive when they're to the right of Reagan, Thatcher and George W. Bush.

And now this shit 'we're going to give you 30 days to straighten up your act,' which happens to coincide after the election.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You're absolutely fried if you think he's to the right of Bush or Reagan

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

When Israel was bombing Lebanon in 1982 Reagan called Menacham Begin and said stop it. What you were doing is committing genocide. If you don't we're stopping all the money and all the weapons.in 2002 Bush threatened no money and weapons for killing civilians in Gaza

Thatcher imposed an arms embargo on Israel for bombing Lebanon.

Biden is to the right of is Reagan. Bush, and Thatcher on foreign policy, and on many domestic policies.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Our politicians are "progressive" because they don't want to kill queer people and round up immigrants. Unfortunately that's where our Overton window is nowadays :/

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

But they don't mind that their government does

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

As much as I dislike Obama's drone strikes, at least he could stand up to Netanyahu.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah...they need a post-war Germany treatment, with less forgiveness. Additionally, any who have served in the IDF should be ineligible for election (I know that's a lot), as well as any of those exempt from compulsive service warmonger assholes.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

No need to reach all the way back to the 40s when there's a much more similar example in the early 90: Apartheid South Africa.

Israel needle to be made a pariah state like Apartheid South Africa was and their leaders tried for their many crimes against humanity UNLIKE the leaders of Apartheid South Africa.

It's the only way that lasting peace can be a possibility.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder though, maybe South Africa was easily made a pariah state in the 90s because it was the end of the Cold War. SA's utility in geopolitics to contain communism had run its course. Meanwhile, Israel is situated in still tense Middle East, and the main reason US still support Israel is because the latter provides excellent intelligence gathering which they provide then to the US and the West.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody really knew it was the end of the Cold War though

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Apartheid ended in 1994 with the election of Nelson Mandela, which is 4-5 years after the fall of communism.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Arms embargo and sanctions? We sanctioned Russia...

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

We don't send billions of dollars worth of weapons to Russia every year

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Do we really send billions to Isreal though? Yes, I know we're addicted to our military industrial complex, but it would be nice if we weren't.

[–] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know. Netty is so bloodthirsty to stay in power. It would be good first step though.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

He'd have a much harder time spilling blood, though.

Israel literally don't have the capability of keeping up their genocidal campaigns at anywhere near this scale without the military and financial aid from the US.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 1 points 16 hours ago

So is the embargo around America?