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    [–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    This is true. I have a completely broken arch linux install right now, wine doesn't work. Only games I play are OpenTTD and Aisleriot Solitaire on my laptop.

    [–] Ellvix@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

    OpenTTD pretty sick tho

    [–] vaxhax@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

    with a stack of slackware 3.5" installation media next to it...

    [–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Even before Proton Minecraft ran better on Linux than Windows

    [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

    I think this user has an irrational disdain or hatred of linux that causes them to believe things that aren't true, or haven't ever been true. I mean he literally created !linuxsucks@lemmy.world just to post memes complaining.

    [–] socsa@piefed.social 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It's even worse than you think.

    He will become... An engineer.

    [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

    I miss the Dilbert cartoons.

    [–] Nomad@infosec.pub 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I can attest to that. Parents tried Linux to prevent me from gaming. Learned to dual boot first, got into security and Linux later and am engineer today. N+=1

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago

    parents in the background going "Our plan was a succes"

    [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 270 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Updated for 2024 and a post Proton world.

    [–] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

    Christ. Fr. I was so excited when the Asahi team started to show off Vulkan games on M1 chips. Once it’s had a bit of time in the oven I’m ripping MacOs out of an, otherwise, wonderful device for what I paid for it.

    [–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

    Do Windows 8 RT next!

    [–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    True Statement, The new macs have better gaming support on linux than macOS

    [–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Are we talking about the M3 chips? Or the last intel? Because these are not the same.

    [–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Were talking about m serie, the fps may not be amazing but macos cant run windows games like linux can. When every wwdc apple just shows off some game they paid a metric crap ton to get it ported. Which isnt really gaming, if your selection is like 5 games.

    [–] amongstthetrees@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    That's so false.. That's like saying the only games Windows can run is Halo and whatever crap is in the Windows Store. Steam has thousands of out-of-the-box compatible games and Crossover helps cover many other games.

    Before I got I rebuild my Linux gaming PC (watercooling shenanigans) I gamed for a solid year on MacOS. I played Baldur's Gate 3 on release for Windows through Crossover, was on my second play through when official Mac support dropped. I've played Civ 5 & 6 with friends. I've made many cities in Cities Skylines. I played FF7 Remake again. Even for old 32-bit Windows games like Touhou 6 run with minor tweaking.

    [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    Hey, nobody disputes that.

    Doesn't mean macOS has a comparable portfolio of games it runs. Proton just works better than crossover or Whiskey or whatever.

    [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

    Unsurprising since Proton is optimized by Valve specifically for playing games. Crossover, Wine, and Whiskey are more general purpose. They will work fine and can be optimized and tweaked, but Proton will work better out of the box.

    [–] AlotOfReading@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

    Crossover is the commercial version of the code behind proton, developed by the same company. It doesn't work as well on Mac as on Linux. Since "Like Linux but worse" is exactly the point you're responding to, so you're pretty much in agreement with them?

    [–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Try Whisky! It uses Wine and has conversion for the Apple graphics layer. It runs some games you can’t get running otherwise.

    [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

    It works OK. Steam itself is super sluggish under it.

    Native Steam + Proton is just better.

    [–] zerofk@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

    I knew booze was the only way to make using a Mac bearable.

    [–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

    You should probably also update the meme faces to whatever the hell the kids are using these days.

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 37 points 1 day ago
    [–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
    [–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Is that Tom Scott from the future?

    [–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

    New head-canon accepted

    [–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 4 points 1 day ago

    It's Linus Torvalds.

    [–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago
    [–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 70 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Then the kid installs Proton and your keikaku* fails miserably.

    *TN: keikaku means plan.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

    Haha, try installing anything on NixOS before learning how to program

    [–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I think the plan is more that he'll be so busy coonfing to optimize his userspace that he'll have no time to game.

    [–] Archer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

    Arch Linux’s time to shine

    [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It comes with Steam by default and is automatically used out of the box when a native linux version of the game isn't found.

    [–] shadowbert@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Kinda... you do need to enable it in settings.

    [–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    Only if the game wasn't tested and verified

    [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

    I think now it'll just run it through proton if a native linux release isn't found. At some point they seem to just have enabled Proton support by default for games that support it. It's only for games that have a non-functional linux Release that you have to mess with them.

    [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

    Are you sure? I know it was like that when it first came out but I think now they have it enabled by default, just install and run the games under it automatically.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

    I did not have to enforce proton on cyberpunk which is running using proton 🤔

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I played so much supertuxkart in middle school, then got pretty good at figuring out how to configure wine to make everything work in high school, and now as an adult wine has gotten so good that I just click on whatever I want to play on steam and 90% of the time it just works flawlessly, I don't even always remember which games are native and which are running in wine these days.

    Anyway yeah, using linux never made me spend less time playing games

    [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

    Supertuxkart is one of the best games that I've ever played.
    Mostly because it has a multiplayer mode. Much more than LAN multiplayer, it had options to map controls for the 2nd player on the same keyboard.
    Used it to play with my relatives and it was fun.

    [–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

    Plan failed, the kid read the man pages and stackoverflow

    [–] PapstJL4U@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    I think a friend of mine would be delighted to have his children play video games.

    They are only consuming [tiktock, yt, other social media].

    I think he rather wants his children beating Red Alert campaign, than cpnsum 10s tiktocks.

    Modding your first game, opening condigs ans inis, because key-remapping wasn't a thing...all the gateways to interact with file system.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

    I plan to teach my son how to mod consoles and play retro games on them 😂

    [–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Learning how to edit config.sys to get sound working without internet help was a rite of passage for many.

    [–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

    The first time I knew I wanted to hack the planet was when I figured out how to edit a config file in Castles II: Siege and Conquest which let me start with max gold and resources so I could finally conquer the entire map and make that smug fucking pope eat my entire ass.

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    I think the only game that's given me a hard time with linux is Call of Duty

    And that's not to say that you couldn't get it to work, it was just more than one click to set up so I couldn't be bothered.

    Honestly, probably better of without CoD anyway

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